well ill be honest

Held out from getting an xbox one because of how Microsoft handled Halo MCC. The whole 1 disk and download 20gb BS.

So I guess their early screw up is a blessing for me haha.

That and this unfortunate. At least for the forums ^

And 21M units sold... How is that a flop think-man?
See, you are actually proving the point here. Every thread/subject become a Sony versus Microsoft or vice et versa and as the big majority of members are Sony enthusiasts; nothing can be talked objectively about Microsoft without having those kind of hit and run comments and Microsoft related threads being completly ruined.

Did they leave or just happen to buy the ps4 this go around?

I see this theory on other sites, that sony fans have pushed xbox fans off of sites with an abundance of hate.  I do not follow the logic, especially on a site dedicated to sales information, because these console ownership population shifts on forums is likely just following the sales pattern.  

Do you think Microsoft is happy with 21M? I bet they are spewing at the fact they undid all the good work they had achieved with the 360. 

I really do not think that's the case, you're trying to make it sound like MS have done something amazing, they had a good conference and that's it.

Did you read the anti Neo comments and threads before Scorpion was announced? What about anti psvr comments and threads? Downplaying Uncharted sales? You see a positive PS thread, an opposite thread to counter the positive news will pop up.

Unfortunately it's the nature of these forums, happens both ways. I don't think you have to write a thread about it and play the victim. 

Of cpurse they're not happy, they're releasing new hardware and changing the whole concept of their gaming division.

But, 21 millions is not a flop, is Ok. Nintendo woulhave wished Wii U have sold like that, there will be no NX so early un that case.

C'mon now let's not pretend 21 million is a good number lol Luckily the X1 wont finish on 21 million though I'm guessing the base model will sell well over 30 million.

I've seen the anti Neo threads, and were far less, some of The included criticism to MS also, because we knew MS wpuld follow that path, that critic threads were primarily talking about The whole concept of releasing new hardware so early.

The anti Scorpio threads I'm refering are basically downplaying Scorpio as a piece if hardware, downplaying The promise of 4k and 4k itself, and telling that MS isn't capable of releasing hardware like  that, and they're lying, because MS in fact release concrete specs, and that at launch Scorpio would be The most powerful console ever made.

Is way different. The threads I'm refering seems worried that Scorpio can be in fact a great piece of hardware and can put Xbox brand on The competición again.

Doubt it. The X1 is just way too expensive to manufacture compared to the PS4. In Europe, you can easily find X1s for $249 (sometimes even lower if you look around in the odd week, and that has been the case for months now. There is no money to be made at that price level). I'm pretty sure that once production of the Slim model has ramped up, you won't see any more X1s. My guess is that APU chip manufacturing has already stopped and they are just using up the chips now in the manufacturing chain.

it will all come down to price. By the sounds of it this will be over $500 easily and i think that will be a killer for it. If its priced under $500 then it will sell IMO. Same goes for the NEO