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The issue for both the Scorpio and the Neo is how are they going to be able to take true advantage of the hardware. The baseline for all games has to be the original hardware. That will handicap what they can do. If they truly push the hardware, they'll end up with a Hyrule Warriors 3DS/New 3DS situation and a lot of pissed off consumers.



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IMO the GPU will be a slightly overclocked RX 480 (or a custom build with more compute unit) or a RX 490 (which will probably be announced soon) with a less compute unit to Feature ESRAM for compatibility purpose. Pretty sure it will be a polaris GPU since AMD have targeted both power efficiency and low cost which is perfect for console.

the CPU, with late 2017 and 8 cores, it will probably be a Zen CPU.

Memory: the 320 GB/s match the GDDR5X spec of the GTX1080, but the 'Over' statement might point to HMB memory (max 512 GB/s).

While 6TF is not really enough for 4k Gaming on pc it migth be different for consoles. I have no doubt that some titles will be native 4k while other will have better framerate or better AA.

All in all the Scorpio is looking like a little beast that will attract many enthusiast.



Barkley said:
My main wish for the Scoprio is that it can also run Windows 10 Desktop and basically do everything a PC can do. I would get a Scorpio if that was the case. The problem I have is that I require a high powered PC for my work and I'm not about to buy a Scorpio when I can play those games on my PC.

If I can do my work and everything else on a Scoprio as well as game then I'll be sure to pick one up.

 

I think it will run Windows 10 and do everything a PC can do. 



Vasto said:
Barkley said:
My main wish for the Scoprio is that it can also run Windows 10 Desktop and basically do everything a PC can do. I would get a Scorpio if that was the case. The problem I have is that I require a high powered PC for my work and I'm not about to buy a Scorpio when I can play those games on my PC.

If I can do my work and everything else on a Scoprio as well as game then I'll be sure to pick one up.

 

I think it will run Windows 10 and do everything a PC can do. 

I hope so, but if it can that means people could buy games from steam instead of getting XBO games, might discourage Microsoft from doing it :/



it seems too many assumptions are being made here and does it not seem very strange that,

1- MS is giving TFLOP targets 16/18 months before release?

2- Sony is keeping hush hush on details when they supposedly were going to release the Neo this year?

I suspect Sony will be revising which GPU they go for with AMD and which price point they want to reach. If the neo was really going to be out as soon as we previously assumed there would be an announcement made.

MS tipped their hand really early and that gives a huge amount of time for the current hardware leader to chill and mount a battle plan.

Honestly I hope so, the more powerful the console becomes, the better :)



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setsunatenshi said:
it seems too many assumptions are being made here and does it not seem very strange that,

1- MS is giving TFLOP targets 16/18 months before release?

2- Sony is keeping hush hush on details when they supposedly were going to release the Neo this year?

I suspect Sony will be revising which GPU they go for with AMD and which price point they want to reach. If the neo was really going to be out as soon as we previously assumed there would be an announcement made.

MS tipped their hand really early and that gives a huge amount of time for the current hardware leader to chill and mount a battle plan.

Honestly I hope so, the more powerful the console becomes, the better :)

Not necessarily. Hardware revisions are normally announced a month or 2 in advance

Microsoft Announcing Scorpio so early when they didn't even do that for the Xbox One is more confusing. Potentially to avoid consumer backlash from letting people lap up the Xbox One S whilst planning something even bigger the following yera, but maybe also because they know sony is releasing Neo this fall and wants to get the word out there.



I don't doubt developers can comfortably achieve Native 4k on Scorpio seeing its more than 4x stronger than X1 but that will pretty much be at the expense of any graphical improvements. Realistically they'll compromise 4k to have higher graphic setting and better performance, something which will offer value to all Scorpio owners, not just those with UHD TVs.



I dont give a damn about 4K at all, Id only consider buying one if it ment I could play all my games in 60fps rather than 30.....



teigaga said:
setsunatenshi said:
it seems too many assumptions are being made here and does it not seem very strange that,

1- MS is giving TFLOP targets 16/18 months before release?

2- Sony is keeping hush hush on details when they supposedly were going to release the Neo this year?

I suspect Sony will be revising which GPU they go for with AMD and which price point they want to reach. If the neo was really going to be out as soon as we previously assumed there would be an announcement made.

MS tipped their hand really early and that gives a huge amount of time for the current hardware leader to chill and mount a battle plan.

Honestly I hope so, the more powerful the console becomes, the better :)

Not necessarily. Hardware revisions are normally announced a month or 2 in advance

Microsoft Announcing Scorpio so early when they didn't even do that for the Xbox One is more confusing. Potentially to avoid consumer backlash from letting people lap up the Xbox One S whilst planning something even bigger the following yera, but maybe also because they know sony is releasing Neo this fall and wants to get the word out there.

It's still a very suspicious move, especially since Andrew House pretty much confirmed the week before to the WSJ that the Neo is real and there will be an upgrade, but then not even teasing it or mentioning anything about it on the conference to me indicates that the specs are not final. One of the initial rumors was that the CPU was not set in stone at the time as Sony was trying to figure out where to price the console.

With MS pretty much going like "fuck it, we'll go this far", all of a sudden gives Sony the idea of how far they can push the price and still have the best perceived value compared to their competitor.

I do think they should go all in and push for the high end, that's the segment of the market that will buy a 2nd console during the generation and is very performance oriented.

In any case I'm ready to drop some cash, now I just need to see at what specs they settle at.



People saying they would see much a different between a PS4 NEO with 4Tflops, and XBox Scorpio with 6Tflops don't understand much about computer graphics. Sure if you look hard enough with comparison videos there will be some, but they will be so close few unaided eyes will see it. Now would you really notice when playing a game.

It's just a measuring contest.

PS Also, wouldn't the memeroy be DDR4?  As in the orginal plans for the Xbox One?



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

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