I think it's safe to say the NX won't be comparable in power to Scorpio... I'd be very surprised if it was more powerful than a ps4 even. But let's wait for the reveal before pronouncing it doomed.

However Nintendo really does need that third party support, and unfortunately sony and microsoft have everything going flr them third party wise and I'm struggling to see where Nintendo fit into the picture. What do third parties gain from Nintendo?

The Wii U looks expensive to you because poland is quite a poor country, and yes its quite an ignorant thinking that the design of the console should matter. There were also black gamecubes at launch, and at the time even apple made a cube design for one of their macs, they still are with mac mini.

Who said Wii U is expensive? It's cheap, but not worth the price. And calling Poland a poor country is absurd. We're not as rich as the Western countries yet, but we're close and are closing the gap very fast.

It may have been ignorant, but that's what happened. Lets not forget that back in the day the demography of gamers was different than it is today. Those were still the days when gaming was for kids. And teenagers have this thing that they want to feel so grown-up and mature and reject things that in their mind are "meant for kids". There's no doubt in my mind that GCN fell victim to this in America and in the West, arguing this is being in denial.

Nope you arent, if poland would be so rich there wouldnt be so many polish immigrants all around europe seeking for better life. I have never worked in any company so far without meeting a polish immigrant. 

And these new censorship laws are alarming too in poland

We know next to nothing about all 3 of them. A bit early to be making claims like this,

Trolling at it's finest.

Hardware power doesn't matter. And we don't even know what the hardware power will be. What matters is games, and proper marketing. Nintendo failed at that with the Wii U, which is why IT failed.

Even though I hate them delaying/porting Zelda to NX, with that, an almost guaranteed 3D Mario title, AND the high likelihood of whatever Retro has been working on, along with whatever else in the launch window, I fail to see how it will be "dead on arrival".

Regardless, it's far too early to be making such predictions.

Only around one third or less of the Nintendo published titles in Wii were so-called "casual" software.

During the Wii's lifespan, Nintendo published no less than:

3 Major Mario games

2 Major Zelda games

2 Metroid games and the Metroid Prime Trilogy compilation

2 Kirby games and the Kirby Collection

A Mario Kart and Smash Bros.

They resurrected properties like Excite racing, Punch Out, and Sin & Punishment

They brought Wario Land back AND on home console for the first time

They had new installments in series like Batallion Wars, Paper Mario, Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem

They brought us a new Donkey Kong Country game

AND they funded The Last Story and Pandora's Tower, and published Xenoblade Chronicles

I just kind of fail to see, in all of that, how they "abandoned the core gamer". That meme has been BS from day one, and while they DID focus on "casual" software last gen, the fact of the matter is, there were more games I (as a so-called "core gamer") was excited about and actually wanted to play, than on N64 and GC combined.

so it would have done better if it competed against PS4/One?

I wonder why this thread is ok and the one about the absence of PS4neo at E3 beeing likely due to XboxScorpios superior hardware was eagerly shut down within minutes by mods with Playstation signatures.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=217593&page=1#

- Moderated, Carl

and what did they do for the WiiU?

those games alone just arent going to sell a system. and they all wont come out in the first year of the NX, in fact they would be spread out throught out the consoles live. but as the WiiU proved, those games just arent enough, not even close.