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So many stories but hope the worse ones are not true, we probably not get confirmation soon it happen in the middle of the night.

Tried to follow some news sites but all I got was fox news with hatefull against Yankees comments :(.






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curl-6 said:
I'm so glad I don't live in the US.
The level of violence over there is truly frightening.

Yeah but you could live in midwestern US, which has a lower murder rate then Euro countries/ Australia despite the high gun ownership.

 

OT: Sad days lately, it always seems to happen when Summer gets rolling.



Farsala said:
curl-6 said:
I'm so glad I don't live in the US.
The level of violence over there is truly frightening.

Yeah but you could live in midwestern US, which has a lower murder rate then Euro countries/ Australia despite the high gun ownership.

I could live in one of the safest places in the US, but on the other hand, I could just stay where I am, where the homicide rate is a quarter that of the US average.

Not trying to turn this into a pissing contast, just saying that the US is not my idea of safe place. It may seem normal to those who live there, but from the perspective of most other developed countries, the murder rate there is scary high.



Farsala said:
curl-6 said:
I'm so glad I don't live in the US.
The level of violence over there is truly frightening.

Yeah but you could live in midwestern US, which has a lower murder rate then Euro countries/ Australia despite the high gun ownership.

 

OT: Sad days lately, it always seems to happen when Summer gets rolling.

But the midwest is sparsely populated. Compared to the nordic countries, which have relatively high gun ownership (but a sparse populace), the murder rate is comparable (and low). However, the murder rate in the densely populated areas in the US with mass gun ownership have an abnormally high murder rate compared to other densely populated European countries with strict gun laws.



WolfpackN64 said:
Farsala said:

Yeah but you could live in midwestern US, which has a lower murder rate then Euro countries/ Australia despite the high gun ownership.

 

OT: Sad days lately, it always seems to happen when Summer gets rolling.

But the midwest is sparsely populated. Compared to the nordic countries, which have relatively high gun ownership (but a sparse populace), the murder rate is comparable (and low). However, the murder rate in the densely populated areas in the US with mass gun ownership have an abnormally high murder rate compared to other densely populated European countries with strict gun laws.

Nordic countries do have high gun ownership, yes, but I do feel the need to point out that we have very strict gun control!



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Farsala said:
curl-6 said:
I'm so glad I don't live in the US.
The level of violence over there is truly frightening.

Yeah but you could live in midwestern US, which has a lower murder rate then Euro countries/ Australia despite the high gun ownership.

 

OT: Sad days lately, it always seems to happen when Summer gets rolling.

where is this magical midwestern US?

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

in the 2014 data I only see New Hampshire at 0.9 (per 100k people), which is on par with Germany's 0.9 and slightly better than UK's/Australia's 1.0 and France's 1.2 and pretty much all other states are waaaay higher



Is it possible to not have a disscusion about gun violence/comparisons with other countries etc in this thread? I find it personally always unrespectfull and it is so easy to create an other thread about this.

Anyway read that their are a lot of victims :(.

More information incoming.






Teeqoz said:
WolfpackN64 said:

But the midwest is sparsely populated. Compared to the nordic countries, which have relatively high gun ownership (but a sparse populace), the murder rate is comparable (and low). However, the murder rate in the densely populated areas in the US with mass gun ownership have an abnormally high murder rate compared to other densely populated European countries with strict gun laws.

Nordic countries do have high gun ownership, yes, but I do feel the need to point out that we have very strict gun control!

I didn't mean to sa



konnichiwa said:
Is it possible to not have a disscusion about gun violence/comparisons with other countries etc in this thread? I find it personally always unrespectfull and it is so easy to create an other thread about this.

Anyway read that their are a lot of victims :(.

More information incoming.

I know it's disheartening. But this will always keep happening untill there comes a mature discussion about gun ownership. I hope organizations like the NRA realize they have blood on their hands.



people are just crazy :