o_O.Q said:
lol so if a man is bad at sex he has raped the women he has sex with? |
If she remembered it then no lol
SuperNova said:
I'm pretty sure it's still rape in Europe if the girl is passed out or so drunk that she's drifting in and out of consciousness and you have sex with her, even if she got that drunk voluntarily in the first place. Of course, having one beer doesn't make you unable to consent. Twelve? Yeah, maybe. |
But that's a totally different case than what we're talking about. Fucking a corpse of a girl that passed out and having sex with a girl that gave consent while being drunk can't be compared.
Still, people need to learn that they are responsible for what they do when they get drunk just like when they are sober. Being drunk changes nothing - NOTHING.
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Toxy said:
Another post that makes it clear that this website should stick to gaming news. Just because you may not be able to act at your full mental capacity, does not mean you should be taken advantage of. Rape is rape, regardless of whether you are intoxicated or not. It is the same when people slut shame. She wore revealing clothes so she was asking for it. Most of the time when someone has been raped, they have dressed moderately. Most rape victims are raped by someone that they know. Moderated - Miguel_Zorro |
forest-spirit said:
Right. Good luck with that...
For someone borderline obsessed by our country and how messed up we are it's remarkable how little you actually know about us. But I guess flinging arguments left and right and hoping something sticks is easier than doing some actual research. |
Sweden has one of the highest cases of rapes per year in the world because it's definition of what rape is broader than the rest of the world. If you sleep with a woman that was drinking even a little bit and she's says you took advantage of her, you're considered a rapist and you're screwed in a bad way this time.
"This excerpt is an unofficial translation, provided by the Ministry of Justice, of the 2014 legal definition of rape:
A person who by assault or other violence or by threat of a criminal act forces another person to have sexual intercourse or to undertake or endure another sexual act that, in view of the seriousness of the violation, is comparable to sexual intercourse, shall be sentenced for rape to imprisonment for at least two and at most six years. This also applies if a person engages with another person in sexual intercourse or in a sexual act which under the first paragraph is comparable to sexual intercourse by improperly exploiting that the person, due to unconsciousness, sleep, serious fear, intoxication or other drug influence, illness, physical injury or mental disturbance, or otherwise in view of the circumstances, is in a particularly vulnerable situation."
What were you saying?
Why ate there so many people here having this conversation without involving the law?
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MikeRox said:
If 5 bottles of beer is enough to get drunk, you're definitely not in America XD I've read a lot suggesting your situation would be sure fire rape if you were a female. But I think it's a lot more complex than just going "I was drunk so could not consent". |
People do tend to have a different reaction when a guy says they got drunk and woke up in bed with someone compared to if a woman recounted the same experience.
It should be noted that I cannot say if the girl I slept with was drunk as well, I don't even remember meeting her or leaving the bar with her, much less sleeping with her. I have hazy memories of being at the University bar, then next thing I know, I wake up the next morning naked in bed with a stranger. It could be that I was taken advantage of by somebody sober, or maybe we were just both drunk.
| gatito said: If you can only hook up with drunk people that says a lot about you. |
Are you insinuating that such people are immoral, or that they must be unattractive?
curl-6 said:
Are you insinuating that such people are immoral, or that they must be unattractive? |
It's a bit of a dig at some area's, such as here in Ireland sadly there is a huge culture of going out to bars being seen as the thing to do to enjoy and socialize, I don't drink at all myself (alcohol obviously) but still find myself being ushered towards bars because it's so much fun, as a sober person drinking coffee at a bar I can see firstly that drunkenly falling around the place doesn't look like much fun and secondly I see so many people doing things that they will regret in the morning or at least feel awful for in the morning, especially now that everything gets posted to facebook so it isn't like you aren't going to see pictures of what you do now when you wake up in the morning.
But yeah my point was more that some places only really have going out to pubs as their form of being social and some aren't brave enough to think you can order a non alcoholic beverage from a bar because of peer pressure to "have fun" and get drunk, sadly half the people who get drunk and end up in bad situations have their friends good intentions of wanting them to "have fun" putting them in danger.
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Ganoncrotch said:
It's a bit of a dig at some area's, such as here in Ireland sadly there is a huge culture of going out to bars being seen as the thing to do to enjoy and socialize, I don't drink at all myself (alcohol obviously) but still find myself being ushered towards bars because it's so much fun, as a sober person drinking coffee at a bar I can see firstly that drunkenly falling around the place doesn't look like much fun and secondly I see so many people doing things that they will regret in the morning or at least feel awful for in the morning, especially now that everything gets posted to facebook so it isn't like you aren't going to see pictures of what you do now when you wake up in the morning. But yeah my point was more that some places only really have going out to pubs as their form of being social and some aren't brave enough to think you can order a non alcoholic beverage from a bar because of peer pressure to "have fun" and get drunk, sadly half the people who get drunk and end up in bad situations have their friends good intentions of wanting them to "have fun" putting them in danger. |
As an Australian, I can relate to this, we have a massive culture of binge drinking here, and I myself drank way more than I should have in my late teens and early twenties in an attempt to drown out my anxiety and socialize. And yeah, it was stupid of me. Luckily for me I was able to learn my lesson before any serious damage was done.
| Mummelmann said: Depends on how drunk the person is, but I question why the OP doesn't include a scenario where the male is the drunk party. Power structures etc? |
Because I was biased...I know a lot of men get raped, but typically I forget that and usually make the women the ones getting raped.
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