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nanorazor said:
Dunban67 said:

Maybe the husband just hit him with a lucky punch- not intending to kill him but woops caught him just right and put the rabid animal/rapist out of his misery and sure;y saving future victims from said rapist -  alls well that ends well

If he had no intention to kill, it is manslaughter. If he had intention to kill, it's murder. This must be proven in court of law. Self defence does not include killing people unless the guilty have every intention to killing you. If the law was clouded with emotions/religion, all punishment will be done unjustly.

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teigaga said:
BraLoD said:
Isn't that legit defense?
If someone is going to rape your wife beating him senseless should not make you a criminal.

Unless the guy hit his head on a hard surface whilst falling, it's quite hard to beat someone to death with fists, which implies that the husband continued way past the point of the man being disabled/severely hurt/unconscious. 

My immediate suspicious is that it was driven by anger not self defense. Which is understandable but thankfully not condoned by law. Haven't read the full article but it sounds like the only account we have is theirs which could easily be falsified since the other guy is dead. One of the many reasons stuff like this can be an issues and why things need to go through the justice system.

If you guys watched the video, you'd know he beat him to death with a tire iron. 



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It's hard to say because so often the complete story is not reported via news.  Once it goes to trial we might learn there was more to this than him just standing in the hall way.   Maybe his wife was in the hall?  Maybe the man was in the hall still trying to force entry?  Maybe the man attacked the husband when he realized who he was, as in the husband announcing get away from my wife?  Who knows what the full details are. 

The article states this was not a good man who was attempting rape.  He has many prior arrests. 



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There was definitely no reason to kill him when he was in the hallway, unless he was attacking someone. Doesn't sound like he was. And even if he was actively trying to rape his wife when he arrived, killing him would've been too harsh. There's a reason the justice system exists, and it is so that individuals don't try to take justice in their own hands. If you take justice into your own hands, you're a criminal yourself and deserve to be punished.

I'm not saying the guy shouldn't have done anything. I'm saying killing the would-be rapist is overreacting.



Teeqoz said:
BraLoD said:

Excessive force? That's hard to judge, defending yourself is way easier to judge, but to make someone incapable of hurting a beloved it's hard to.
People should try to put themselves in the situation, if your wife (or mother, or anything like that) calls you in panic saying a maniac invaded your house and it's trying to rape her I don't think anyone would be calmly and thinking straight, once he got there he hould undoubtly attack the guy to protect that person.

Anyway, it might have been already settled and he wanted to charge his anger anyway, then got to beat up the guy even unneed, but even so, try listening to someone you love crying to you saying it's about to be raped and try to be cool, that just isn't real, rarely someone would hold itself.

No, it's not hard to judge. When he's outside in the hallway, it's pretty easy to see that he's unable to hurt anyone, so it's absolutely excessive force.

Also, if you actually beat someone to death by inducing severe trauma to both head and body, you can't just have done that by accident while trying to knock him out or subdue him. You have to have been aggressively attacking him. I don't feel sorry for the husband, he should get charged. Simple as that. I don't care if he did it in a fit of rage because his wife had called and asked for help. He murdered the guy and used much much more force than neccesary to protect his wife from the situation.

Until it goes to court we won't know for sure if he was just standing in the hall. This alone makes it hard to form an opinion.  



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michael_stutzer said:

A lot of people dies from just a single punch. He may have beat him for half and hour or he may have landed a strong punch, hard to know for sure.

Even then, even he is not actively attacking someone, you never know if he is going to pull up a knife or something, I wouldn't stop until he is completely harmless as well.

not hard for the coroner to determine that



Lrdfancypants said:
Teeqoz said:

No, it's not hard to judge. When he's outside in the hallway, it's pretty easy to see that he's unable to hurt anyone, so it's absolutely excessive force.

Also, if you actually beat someone to death by inducing severe trauma to both head and body, you can't just have done that by accident while trying to knock him out or subdue him. You have to have been aggressively attacking him. I don't feel sorry for the husband, he should get charged. Simple as that. I don't care if he did it in a fit of rage because his wife had called and asked for help. He murdered the guy and used much much more force than neccesary to protect his wife from the situation.

Until it goes to court we won't know for sure if he was just standing in the hall. This alone makes it hard to form an opinion.  

That is true. I'm of course commenting based on the information provided in the article, and there could be other info that would influence my opinion that I don't have.



This is usually the type of case that doesn't go to court. At least, not in some states.



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It's technically illegal, but I have a good feeling he won't be charged.