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Forums - General Discussion - Should kids have a chance to grow up and decide what gender they are, or should parents change their sex early on?

axumblade said:
A parent should not be allowed to choose the gender of their child. It is all based on the comfort level of the person as their gender. Not the parents wanted a boy so they'll treat their daughter like a boy.

OK, let me see if I understand this:  So am I going to ask my 3yr old daughter if I should buy a dress or a pair of pants for her to wear?  

Or when we go into a public bathroom I'll just say:  "honey, just get into wherever you feel more comfortable"

Or I'll say to my 3 YEARS OLD child:  "Honey, we just don't know if you are a man or a woman just yet, you will get to decide that"

 

You really don't see nothing wrong in that scenario?



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spurgeonryan said:

So I am watching a show where parents start their kids at the age of two.

 

To me, it seems that they are deciding for the kids at this age. But maybe I am wrong, maybe they should not wait until they are in their teens or older before this happens. By then they already have to deal with years of being a certain supposed sex. 

 

Your thoughts?

 

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If you're born a male, you're a male and vice versa. What determines your sex is your chromosomes. You can believe that you're a girl, dress like one, act like one and get surgery to look like one, but you're a boy still because of science. Sorry, I didn't make the world. It is what it is.



Wow.

"Are you a boy or a girl?" Is the new "sex talk"

But seriously, I don't think it is a good idea for parents to try to force such ideas on their kids. Odds are overwhelming that the kid will identify with its sex at birth, and if otherwise, he'll figure out on his own in time. I didn't need my parents's help to figure out I liked guys.

The fact that public schools in Washington are going to introduce trangenderism to KINDERGARTNERS is maddening. To me, it all honestly sounds like the pushing of an agenda.



tinfamous12 said:
If someone wants to change their sex that is entirely up to them and does not mean they have any serious psychological problems.

I don't know where I stand on this, I kinda think it is a problem of self acceptance like any other, only gender related and maybe it is a psycological disorder. Its a complex subject.



axumblade said:
chakkra said:

OK, let me see if I understand this:  So am I going to ask my 3yr old daughter if I should buy a dress or a pair of pants for her to wear?  

Or when we go into a public bathroom I'll just say:  "honey, just get into wherever you feel more comfortable"

Or I'll say to my 3 YEARS OLD child:  "Honey, we just don't know if you are a man or a woman just yet, you will get to decide that"

 

You really don't see nothing wrong in that scenario?

 

Wow. I'm referring to when the child goes through puberty. Not quite sure why you're jumping to conclusions about a three year old choosing bathroom..

The sentiment likely stems from the "Die Cis Scum" movement from Tumblr, where Tumblrfucks were disgusted that people's genders are chosen at birth. I think there's a ton of confusion in this thread regarding that. 

 

That said, a parent can't choose something personal like that for their child after they develop their own sense of self... But I think a default is necessary. I will raise my daughter as a girl until she decides to be a tomboy, or a priss, or a lesbian, or whatever she decides. Because kids need that structured aspect of their life. And when they decide to alter their identity, that needs to be structured as well. 



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axumblade said:
chakkra said:

OK, let me see if I understand this:  So am I going to ask my 3yr old daughter if I should buy a dress or a pair of pants for her to wear?  

Or when we go into a public bathroom I'll just say:  "honey, just get into wherever you feel more comfortable"

Or I'll say to my 3 YEARS OLD child:  "Honey, we just don't know if you are a man or a woman just yet, you will get to decide that"

 

You really don't see nothing wrong in that scenario?

Wow. I'm referring to when the child goes through puberty. Not quite sure why you're jumping to conclusions about a three year old choosing bathroom..

Oh, Sorry.  Maybe is because English is not my native language but I was under the impression that a "child" was a person between birth and puberty?

If that definition is true then a three year old kid would fall into that category (Again, me not being a native speaker, I'm not 100% sure about this)



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spynx said:

What makes yours factual? You think what some group of scientists put down is always true?

"If you have a better system than the Scientific Method, you should publish it in a peer-reviewed article and collect your Nobel Prize."  --SuaveSocialist, Roman Catholic Buddhist.

I have not questioned scientific methods. I read science myself and liked it. Over the years i've come to find out that some are factual and others are bogus.



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spynx said:
SuaveSocialist said:

"If you have a better system than the Scientific Method, you should publish it in a peer-reviewed article and collect your Nobel Prize."  --SuaveSocialist, Roman Catholic Buddhist.

 Over the years i've come to find out that some are factual and others are bogus.

You should publish your methodology for determining the difference and then collect your Nobel Prize.