Political Correctness is the poison from left wing leaning media and Socialist government that is slowly destroying society. It is no huge surprise that media and Socialist governments have socially engineered society to think a particular way. These days no one can have an opinion that Socialist society opposes.

Ok I'm convinced you're a troll.  well played. I'm shocked I took such nonsense seriously for 8 posts.

Just in case you're not though...

DOJ reports cases that have been reported to police either by the victim or by someone else falling under the definition of sexual assault are sexual activities as forced sexual intercourse, forcible sodomy, child molestation, incest, fondling, and attempted rape.

"2 in 3 (65%) rape or sexual assault victimizations were not reported to police from 2006 to 2010"

Pretending like police phone calls are the extent to which all crime happens is beyond laughable. That's like saying there aren't illegal immigrants living in america outside the ones that are caught every year. I liked that one, I laughed pretty hard m8. The actual DOJ report says that 350k sexual assault or rape cases were reported BY THE VICTIM or SOMEONE ELSE in 2012, and admits that up to 70% of rape goes unreported.

You also don't know what ego-centrism means. Probably time to read a book. Hint: It doesn't mean ego-centric.

And I'm not being narcissistic, you're probably just projecting your insecurity on me.

Here is some more info for your "video":
Here is the full report, first of all, which you probably won't read: http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_report2010-a.pdf
Here are thedefinitions used in the CDC report
http://postimg.org/image/hc67h1si5/

As you can see, "having sex while drunk" is not one of the options this lady is talking about.

Here are the actual questions asked about "intoxicated sex"
http://postimg.org/image/vskqnicg7/

Very different from "had sex while you were drunk"

And on the subject of coersion:
http://postimg.org/image/ve7seudwh/

Additionally, non-violent coersion, intoxicated, and otherwise are all separated values.

http://postimg.org/image/btis91vsl/

They aren't lumped all together, as you were saying they were.

Just as a quick breakdown:
The DOJ report includes very specific line-items on a per year basis. THose items being violent sexual activities as forced sexual intercourse, forcible sodomy, child molestation, incest, fondling, and attempted rape.

The CDC report includes those same line items plus a bunch of others including drugged, unable to give consent, pressured, lied to, manipulated, and non-violent forcing over lifetime averages.

The two reports do not conflict. The two reports report diffferent things.

Since you seem keen to believe I'm being all high and mighty, here is a metaphor a "7-year old" would understand.
One is a report on ice cream eaten in a year based on store sales data, and another is a report on ice-cream, froyo, froco, and other cold desserts eaten over a lifetime based on sales and estimated home-made desserts. One says 350k people report eating ice cream in a year. The other says that 12m people over an entire lifetime have eaten icecream, and that some odd millions more once had froyo or froco or other.

Funny, 350k is 3% of 12m...and those people get older and new people reach maturity. Huh, isn't that interesting, it would only take 30 years for 12m women to have experienced rape. THAT CANT BE POSSIBLE?!!? No, that can't be right, I must just be an imbecile who doesn't actually know how to read reports.

OMFG you actually did the math(incorrect),  and came up with 2,5% and you posted this. Then you realized it was actually 0,25% and you removed it. You basicly know you are wrong but you rather just keep on going. You are so unbelievably dishonest its just insane. And you are using 2012 which conviently has the highest amount of rapes/sexual assault in the last god knows how many years. Do you actually believe 20% of all women are raped(you initially said 25% btw)? Out of every year you knowingly picked the highest year and used this to do your flawed math. You sir suck at math and are skewing your numbers.

You rather lie than admit defeat. Great job

12 million?????????? Omg the us have only 60 million women? When did the other 100 million die? Are you actually that stupid or were you hoping i didnt notice it? And that 350K includes sexual assualt, which is not rape, WHICH YOU KNOW!!!!!! And you dont multiply with percentages and add them you stupid idiot. 350K . 30 = 10.5 million women. THAT INCLUDES sexual assault. AFter 30 years its ........ 6.5%........ And that is using your skewed numbers. It includes sexual assault AND you used data from the peak year in rapes/sexual assault.

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Man... I'm sorry to say to you, but SJWs scream rape for even flerting. So yep there are a very big number of big mouths that say "forced sex' (and they push a lot of things under being forced) or lying about yourself to have sex as rape or sexual assault. So perhaps you were thinking about your definition of rape and not about what is in OP that is talking about SJWs.

If you don't blame the person for their lack of strenght in character then it's very hard as well to put them as suach victims that you have to reverse the guilty on the person that have it's his way. The primary responsible for his own safety and well being is the person themself and we have been failing as a society on it for a long time since the SJWs decided to make themselves the holders of all things good.

Being in a fight you don't want to be (and as option inside my argument would be walk away... so you aren't mandated to fight) is different than being in a consensual relationship that you opted to enter and can leave. And I suffered bullying from 10 to 18y so I'm very familiar with the situation, but I don't care because I never let it damage me.

And dozen of analagous situations isn't the same as this situation, so perhaps you wouldn't even put them because they wouldn't validate your point unless spin is involved.

That is exactly what I have been saying. If you don't want to share the experiences with that someone you better not keep having the relationship, instead of selfshily keeping that person attached to you even though you want only to satisfy your needs and not the needs of the other part (be it love, sex, travels, etc), if both can't come to a common ground where both feel like they are being satisfied to be together them there is no good reason to keeping it up. (And as I said, talking about where the option to walk away is acceptable. Because again as I said, if law prohibited or the person would have very bad result from walking away, like gamily abandoning and starving I wouldn't hold it against the person, even if I think for myself that it would be a better option than living with someone you don't want to).

And about ethnicity... by your second bullet you could put yourself as evaluating etnocentrically because you are using your experience as a ruler to measure reality even more than I'm.

Nope man.

If you want sex one night or another and the other person doesn't want it, it's part of relationship. Now if you don't want to have sex at all and the other person want a lot of sex, and you say the part that doesn't have more right to not want because its their body than the other that is also part of the relationship and live of the other then something is very off.

The math I was doing was flawed because the DOJ has separate reports for reported non-reported and estimated crimes. According to the DOJ, sexual abuse has been on a trend downward. So 2012 is not the highest. And in fact, misses a lot of demographics:

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fvsv9410.pdf

Read this report, scroll down to the bottom where it says, incidence by year

1995 had 550k and 1996 500k and was in 400k+ territory until 2001. I'm interested to see why a drop happened though, because things like that generally don't occur without some kind of categorizational change.

You realize 12m was just for the full rape right? The statistic for the 1-5 or 1-4 (or however you want to box in my point like 5% matters to the validity of the entire argument) was based on all sexual assault. This was the statistic that was noted from the CDC, not the DOJ. The sarcasm in your voice is pretty damn condescending to those people bro. You have a lot of contempt, huh? That 350k is from the DOJ which is one report, as I have explained to you once already. And the 12m is from the CDC, a different report, which I've explained already. I wasn't trying to be exact in a simple multiplication that you should've easily put together on your own. Clearly 350k doesn't go into 12m 30 times as 3/12+4/12 is much closer to 3.5. But yeah sure, 5 more years is such a big difference when the average lifespan post 12 years old is another ~70 years or so.

See, when you discuss with someone online about things, it's assumed that the other side is at least not going to harp on trivial details. The truth is the important thing. Not who is right. A discussion is a way of helping each other find out what the truth is.

The DOJ also file different reports for incarcerated rape, military, and children, so... maybe you should take a look at yourself in the mirror. I'll find you the numbers but the DOJ had something like 80k inmates, 60k kids, and 15k military every year, and also admits that universities have their own figures that aren't reported as well. These numbers are not included in either the 350k number, the reported number or the non reported number. This is IN ADDITION TO. Because like I said, studies use very distinct points, and this one happens to be female in society aged 12+.

I don't argue with people who can't step past their own insecurities and have to use insults to try and prove their point. As if anything you've said has been rooted in any fact other than a single right-wing truther youtuber.

Also, reported. Take some time off, come back with some sources, if you actually have any. Show me your math, and show me how it differs from the number. Please, I would LOVE to see you shut yourself down.

Ok this is what I'm going to do because it seems like numbers are going to be the only thing that convinces you. You seem pretty deep in this truther/conspiracy mindset that everyone is being lied to. I'll get all the info, compile it, and put it here. Then you can pick and choose which numbers your'd like to accept or reject.

I understand now. However, that wasn't what you were saying. The misuse of the word 'right' made for a significant divergence in meaning.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/svpjri1112.pdf
Page 17 Prevalence of sexual victimization, by type of incident and inmate characteristics, National Inmate Survey, 2011–12
Number of inmate in prison 96k number in jail 91k, with 6.9%+2.3% and 3.6+1.4% respectively.
totals: 26,724 for 2011
A couple pages later it says does not include under the age of 18. Another page describes 16-17 year olds with an additional 600 cases.

Yearly stats by the DOJ
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fvsv9410.pdf
First line says " the total rate of sexual violence committed against U.S. female residents age 12".
So there you can see what exactly we are looking at in terms of population.

Female Victims of Sexual
Violence, 1994-2010
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fvsv9410.pdf
" Th e sample includes persons living in
group quarters, such as dormitories, rooming houses, and
religious group dwellings. Persons living in military barracks
and institutional settings, such as correctional or hospital
facilities, and the homeless are excluded from the sample. "

" Victimizations that occurred outside of the
United States were excluded from this report."

-"fun fact", I was once in Greece and met an American teach who was there with a completely shitfaced 15 year old. He explained that he'd get her drunk and have sex with her and was bragging to us about it.

Page 11: Totals per year
1995 - 555.600
1996 - 443,300
1997 - 450.100
1998 - 436.400
1999 - 458.900
2000 - 452.100
2001 - 390.700
2002 - 366.200
2003 - 304.300
2004 - 277.600
2005 - 221.100
2006 - 276.300
2007 - 298.400
2008 - 273.500
2009 - 297.900
2010 - 269.700

This totals 6m over 15 years. (which is actually higher than the 350k (400k) per year that I was using Mr. Stickler)
And this doesn't include the 30k per year for prison and jail

http://www.sapr.mil/public/docs/reports/FY12_DoD_SAPRO_Annual_Report_on_Sexual_Assault-volume_one.pdf
Military statistics showing ~18k per year against females in the military since 2010
Exhibit 17 also shows that females approximate 90% of assaults

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/saycrle.pdf
"Sexual Assault of Young
Children as Reported to Law
Enforcement:"

60k cases reported to law over 5 years.
unknown how many actually occured though estimated that only 30% are reported.
"age 14 is the highest risk age"
" 34% were under age 12. Most disturbing is that one of every seven victims
of sexual assault (or 14% of all victims) reported to law enforcement agencies were under age 6."

50% OF ALL reported sexual assault are under age 12 by a caregiver. A statistic which is left out by the DOJ report

"The relative proportion of female victims generally increased with age. Sixty-nine percent of victims under age 6 were female, compared with 73% of victims under age 12"
given the math, that's 180k over 5 years, or 36k per year, with a female proportion of 26,280k per year.


So, given the evidence, we're looking at roughly 70k+per year added onto the yearly stats provided above. Over that same 15 year period that adds on another million.

7m over 15 years from 1995 to 2010. Seven Million. The total population of females in the US is approximately 160m. Yes, that's only about 4.4%, but again, every girl is a child at one point in time or another, so a 70 year old woman still make up for part of the 1-5 statistic.

So, given the average lifetime (and the fact that crime was much higher in the 80's a previously (which i will not include in my computation just to be "fair" to you). Let's just estimate conservatively 4% every 15 years.

Average lifetime for women is 81 years.
81 years/ 15 years = 5.4 cycles
5.4 cycles * 4%

Well, look at that 21.6% that's 1-5 isnt it? Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you can tell me what 21% is.

As I was saying previously, I think you're coming at this from a very  (corrected) Ego-centrist point of view. This basically means that your are applying decisions and intelligence to other people, and saying it's their problem.

I'll tell you right now bro, you and I are similar in this regard. I totally agree with you on what a person should do in a certain circumstance...but bro. We are in the minority. People with strong will, intelligence, no-bullshit attitude. We are rare. And it is even more rare to find in women. This is not a judgement on race or sex or anything. It's just a fact. The majority of people are willing to just let things go as they may, and ride the wave. People like you and I, you spit into the wind and steer the ship ourselves....it's not the same.

Most people don't think like you. I know, there is something off about a relationship like that. I know. It's illogical, right? People aren't as strong as you think.

You deciding that they just are stupid or just "aren't making the right choice", isn't accurate. Most people would describe that they make decisions out of being trapped in a position.  That's why cheating in relationships is so commonplace. Because people feel stuck and have no strength to bail. So they act out.

I don't think your ideas are wrong, I just think that you're overestimating what the average person is capable of.

Just wanted to say, I think there are a few issues with the math used to reach this stat. First of all, you need to account for the amount of people who lived during this time period, not the amount who were alive at the end of it. If you are using an 81 as a "span", you have to account for all the women who have died over those 81 years. The average amount of deaths between 1930 and 2016 is about 2million per year, with about half of that being women that would be 1million per year, so add 81million to your sample size. This decreases the lifetime rape rate to about 15.8%.

You also should account for differences in life expectancy over this time period. People who were born back in 1935 didn't live as long as people who were born in 2015. Taking about the median value, you are left with a life expectancy of 75 years instead of 81 years. Doing some recalculations you are left with a lifetime rape rate of about 14.9%.

Then the variable that is most confounding and difficult to calculate comes into the picture. Not all of those rapes you listed were first time victims. In fact, in victimized populations, rates of revictimization are significantly higher than that of the general population. Numbers I did find for this suggested a wide range of revictimization rates up to 64%, but taking one of the more common numbers I've seen of 20%, you can eliminate 20% of your "victim pool" as redundant. Recalculating with this number leaves you with a lifetime rape rate of about 11.9%.

So by factoring in a few more variables in the BJS data, the lifetime rape/sexual assault rate falls to about 1 in 8.33, or 11.9%

PS: I mostly did this because you already did most of the legwork and I was curious how the numbers would work out. If you can think of any other variables or you see any errors in my math, please call them out