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Would it still be racist if he were white?

Still racist. 104 40.00%
 
Not racist. 86 33.08%
 
Not racist enough. 70 26.92%
 
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Neodegenerate said:
Ka-pi96 said:

So black people = dirty

Asian people = clean

But not racist apparently...

Again, inference.

When light skinned people get dirty they get darker - fact not opinion.

The job of laundry detergent is to make things clean - fact not opinion.

The commercial takes a black man and uses him to portray a very dirty Asian man - culturally unacceptable in most of Western civilization - and then uses the detergent to make him clean and back to his normal "desirable" self.  In their opinion, this was funny and worked.  In my opinion, it is through a cultural prism that we see this as an unacceptable form of humor.  If we weren't so sensitive to race, it would be a non-issue.  Hell, it would be even worse if they used "black-face" to do it.

You seriously don't see nothig wrong with that??



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chakkra said:
Neodegenerate said:

Again, inference.

When light skinned people get dirty they get darker - fact not opinion.

The job of laundry detergent is to make things clean - fact not opinion.

The commercial takes a black man and uses him to portray a very dirty Asian man - culturally unacceptable in most of Western civilization - and then uses the detergent to make him clean and back to his normal "desirable" self.  In their opinion, this was funny and worked.  In my opinion, it is through a cultural prism that we see this as an unacceptable form of humor.  If we weren't so sensitive to race, it would be a non-issue.  Hell, it would be even worse if they used "black-face" to do it.

You seriously don't see nothig wrong with that??

Wrong and Racist are not the same word, don't move the goalpost.



vivster said:
Dunban67 said:

Iis nice to know there is another person who understands what the word  "racism"   means.    The word is used in the place of "prejudice",

'preference", and a variety of other manners that does not fit the meaning.  I seee the word "racisim used far more often improperly than it s used properly. As strong a word as "racisim" is, it should not be used improperly.

Most people (IMO and experience) are not racist, but virtually all people are prejudice in some form or fashion-  When the words/definitions get confused, people get acused of something they are often not guilty of

It's like people being called pedophiles when they find the body of a 17 year old sexy.

Ummm... no thats creepy. 



the_dark_lewd said:

Imagine the amount of penis left in that washer.

Who the hell are you idiots who said it would no longer be racist if he were white? I mean, except for the part where the dark skin is being used as if it's analogous to dirt (which wouldn't work as well with a white person), it'd still be pretty messed up.

*cries laughing* 

best comment so far.



So, the ad is in poor taste and even though I don't think the implication was racial, I can certainly see why people would take it that way.

Some of the comments on that ad though, very racist.

Oh, and another thing. The amount of people that jump on anything they deem "politically correct" is silly. You flipping out over someone getting upset over something you don't think they should be getting upset about is no better that what you claim they're doing. How is that not obvious?



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method114 said:
vivster said:
To be racist you have to actually be a racist and mean what you say. A lot of people forget that when flinging around the -ism words. Racism is the thought that certain races are by nature inferior to yours. If you don't think that then you're not a racist and as such you cannot be racist.

If you prefer around to be white people you're not automatically a racist. Preferring one thing does not mean hating the other. That's why this commercial is not racist unless that was the intent of the producers.

So technically we don't know if it was racist or not.

Judging by the tone and the fact that it's a professional commercial we can safely go the "not racist" route.



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I think everybody is overthinking it a bit. In my opinion, this is not the result of racism or cultural misunderstandings. I just think the advertisement team behind this just copypasted the italian ad and thought they could get away with it, without either getting the original joke or thinking about the outcry it would cause. Or they did and they just used controversy to push their product. Either way I don't see racism.



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thatguymarco said:
The black guy was attractive af, what is wrong with that woman.

You say as if it´s an objective thing.I might be wrong here (but I don´t think I am in this case), but for the average Chinese woman, that Chinese guy is the more attractive man.



Ka-pi96 said:
Darwinianevolution said:

I think everybody is overthinking it a bit. In my opinion, this is not the result of racism or cultural misunderstandings. I just think the advertisement team behind this just copypasted the italian ad and thought they could get away with it, without either getting the original joke or thinking about the outcry it would cause. Or they did and they just used controversy to push their product. Either way I don't see racism.

Did it cause outcry though? I mean, a Chinese company marketing a product that's only sold in China isn't really going to care what people outside China think. So did it cause an outcry in China itself, the only place they're likely to actually care about?

True. But it's still funny to think that the place where a chinese ad is more talked about is outside of China, where noone can buy the product.



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Ka-pi96 said:
Darwinianevolution said:

I think everybody is overthinking it a bit. In my opinion, this is not the result of racism or cultural misunderstandings. I just think the advertisement team behind this just copypasted the italian ad and thought they could get away with it, without either getting the original joke or thinking about the outcry it would cause. Or they did and they just used controversy to push their product. Either way I don't see racism.

Did it cause outcry though? I mean, a Chinese company marketing a product that's only sold in China isn't really going to care what people outside China think. So did it cause an outcry in China itself, the only place they're likely to actually care about?

I am having a hard time recalling the last time China gave a shit about anything people outside of China thought.