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Economic migrants from Africa flooding Europe! This needs to stop!

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Your thoughts?

Yes, these people aren't... 111 54.68%
 
No, they're refugees, an... 49 24.14%
 
We shouldn't encourage t... 43 21.18%
 
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hershel_layton said:
barneystinson69 said:

And can you explain what is wrong with my opinion? I'll be more than happy to discuss it.

Go ahead,I could care less. I only find it a bit tiring that the topics are always the same. Perhaps spicen it up? Talk about different subjects?

 

Again, your choice, but thats my two cents...

This is about Africa, not the middle east. I could talk about this, or how Donald Trump spews more crap then ever before. I could also talk about Turkey and its corrupt leadership blackmailing Europe, but it would relate with the refugees as well.



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Article 14 of the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights exists so these people can be helped out. Articles 13 and 15 reinforce this. How many basic human rights would you deny for the sake of convenience?



They want free money?Where is this "free money" I want some as well.



You can ask the same question about Mexicans and other people coming to USA over the Mexican border. Just because they are no "true" refugees and not really wanted doesn't mean that it is so easy to stop them since they would do everything to reach the country they want to reach. They risk their damn lives since the life they have is so unbelievable bad, some controls on borders won't stop them.

And yes, if they are on the sea almost dying (well, many die) then Europe should help them. They are still humans and only some assholes would say "well, let them die in their boats". 



IMO what we need to do is require refugees to identify themselves as soon as they reach the EU (European Union). Those we can identify themselves and confirm that they're from a war zone or are at risk for some other reason can stay, the rest should be registered (finger prints, picture of face etc.) and deported back to where they came from.



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barneystinson69 said:
KLXVER said:

The history wont go away...

My point is why I care, not that it'll go away. How exactly is this fair to Europeans to allow in so many economic migrants. How about the USA do something for once, or how about the middle east. These people are drowning in the 1000s, then blaming Europe for letting it happen! These people need to solve the problems in their own countries, while Europe does the same for themselves.

If you care so much about people, then maybe care about the thousands of people dying trying to reach Europe. They arent fleeing their own countries because they just dont like it there. Its usually a matter of life or death.



SuaveSocialist said:
Article 14 of the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights exists so these people can be helped out. Articles 13 and 15 reinforce this. How many basic human rights would you deny for the sake of convenience?

Doesn't it also state that refugees can't choose which nations they want to reside in? I see many flooding into France and the UK, so you can explain that as well. And immigrating these people to Europe isn't going to solve the problem that is going on right now. They'll just keep coming in because they'll never bother to improve their nations! It can be done, look at how far China has progressed in the past few decades. India is also starting to become more advanced, and the people get richer everyday. If Africa tried as hard as these nations did, then I'm sure they'll be just as well off.



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KLXVER said:
barneystinson69 said:

My point is why I care, not that it'll go away. How exactly is this fair to Europeans to allow in so many economic migrants. How about the USA do something for once, or how about the middle east. These people are drowning in the 1000s, then blaming Europe for letting it happen! These people need to solve the problems in their own countries, while Europe does the same for themselves.

If you care so much about people, then maybe care about the thousands of people dying trying to reach Europe. They arent fleeing their own countries because they just dont like it there. Its usually a matter of life or death.

Can you please give me an example? Because I didn't know Nigeria was suddenly a warzone. Libya is facing instability, but it isn't like the middle east. I don't think 100,000s of people are facing death in these countries...



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If these people are willing to risk limb and life to get in Europe to flee poverty, bad conditions, political persecution or else, why shouldn't they be welcome.

We signed the Human Rights treaty and we're going to enforce it by any means necessary.



barneystinson69 said:
SuaveSocialist said:
Article 14 of the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights exists so these people can be helped out. Articles 13 and 15 reinforce this. How many basic human rights would you deny for the sake of convenience?

Doesn't it also state that refugees can't choose which nations they want to reside in?

No, it does not say they cannot choose which nation they may reside in.  Now please answer the question: how many basic human rights would you deny for the sake of convenience?