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Baryonyx on 29 May 2016

Reviews today is like reading through the comment section on YT, some are good, some are bad and sometimes even fair which is like 1 out of 100s



 

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Ganoncrotch on 29 May 2016
JWeinCom said:
d21lewis said:
I have a few. They don't unravel the movie, though. You can explain them one at a time.

First: how come when Winter Soldier was losing his shit, Tony was able to hold his own with just an Iron Man glove. At the end, Winter Soldier was able to overpower Iron Man (who was in full armor) with his normal arm!

But he didn't.  He was able to defend himself for about 10 seconds, then his allies jumped in to help him.  It's pretty clear had it been a one on one prolonged fight, Iron man would have been dead.

Was thinking the same thing... Lewis did you miss the fact that Stark was nursing a rather deep black eye and clearly had some broken ribs after the encounter without his suit?

Also from a blast of his suit towards the finale he removed Buckys robotic arm completely.... he... disarmed him! ba dum tis... (I'm sorry)



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archer9234 on 29 May 2016
Normchacho said:
Really? No major plot holes? I don't think I've ever seen a Marvel movie that didn't have major plot holes. But okay, lets talk about some.

1. "We need to be reigned in." Really Tony? We? We need to be reigned in? Coming from the guy who mad hyper advanced weaponry that when the government said "hey, that's too dangerous for one man to control" said, "Fuck you guys! I'm Ironman!". The guy who made a super robot that tried to kill everyone and then decided that the only way to fix it was to try and do the same thing over again?]

Tony Stark, the guy who has been the bull in a China shop for the entire series is jumping right on board with government oversight because after his years of making weapons and killing people with his bare (metal covered) hands, one angry lady made him feel bad about someone who got killed?

3. Why does Black Panther have powers? They literally don't mention them at all. He can fist fight Captain America and the Winter Soldier and can run down a motorcycle...why? How? P90X?

4. This is a smaller issue, but Why did Scarlet Witch just throw things at people during the airport fight? For instance, she throws cars at Ironman...Just grab him. She literally could have ended that fight in like a minute by just holding them all while Cap and Bucky run to the jet. Hell, they all could have made it to the jet.

Certain things just have to happen, in order to let the story go on.

1. That can easily be an issue at any time, for Stark. Even in the comics. He mostly does things on his own, yeah. But, we could easily say that it wasn't just one person. It could have been the culmination of all the past fuck ups. That made him do this. Even pepper too. Remember, he gave up being the President, for his company. Yeah he's lazy, but he wants to be the center. And still let Pepper do it.

3. You have to let that slide. You don't need to waste 5 minutes to explain his powers. Just look them up. Or wait for a movie that has more time to him. It be like explaining Ant-Man or Spider-Man to people. Since they're from different movies. Falcon didn't get explinations, in Ant-Man's film.

4. is a major issue, but, you kind of gotta ignore it. The comics do this all the time. In the comic version of Civil War. There's a few characters that could of easily ended the "war". But they don't do it. It's mainly because, even though they want a side to win. They don't fully want to A: Wreck the places they fight. B: Don't want to kill people off. Kind of a moot war. If say, New York City was obliterated. And half of people you know, are dead. Or Sue Storm would be ripping peoples body parts after 5 minutes. Ant-Man would make shrinkers that target hearts. Hulk/She-Hulk would just rip everyones head off etc. Lying in this universe is basically impossible. And hiding idenities. With certain characters powers. But it still happens. Also, if Iron Man's team wanted too. They could of just given up the info to the public. Stark could of been like "Here's all the real names of everyone that we know." Like when he just said I'm Iron Man, on TV.



d21lewis on 29 May 2016
Ganoncrotch said:
JWeinCom said:

But he didn't.  He was able to defend himself for about 10 seconds, then his allies jumped in to help him.  It's pretty clear had it been a one on one prolonged fight, Iron man would have been dead.

Was thinking the same thing... Lewis did you miss the fact that Stark was nursing a rather deep black eye and clearly had some broken ribs after the encounter without his suit?

Also from a blast of his suit towards the finale he removed Buckys robotic arm completely.... he... disarmed him! ba dum tis... (I'm sorry)

That's my point. Tony only had an Iron Man glove and he was able to hold his own (and catch a bullet) while going toe to toe with The Winter Soldier.

At the end, Tony was wearing a full Iron Man suit and Bucky was able to hold Tony's hand in the air with his normal arm and attack him with his robot arm (which was eventually blown off).

If Bucky was stronger at the end, Tony's glove shouldn't have kept up with him when he was in full "Winter Soldier" mode. If Tony was stronger during their first encounter,  he should have been way stronger at the end.



LurkerJ on 29 May 2016

Does it always have to be about plotholes?

Can't one just dislike the villain? the story? or whatever.

The movie scored 75 on meta. Obviously, lots of reviewers had lots of things to criticize about it. Otherwise it would've scored a 9 or a 10. It's not a perfect movie, not even close. To claim that forum goers and fanboys are the only ones who have problems with the movie is a bit dismissive.