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How exactly is the added power of the new models relevant if no game is meant to use it exclusively?



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think-man said:
DOA calling it now

And if its a HH is it still DOA? I doubt itll do under 30mil if this is the case. Especially when japan will do over 15mil alone (if HH and HC)



Are we even sure at this point that Nintendo is competing directly with MS/Sony?

This might be another case of Nintendo trying to get the casuals back in. Not that I think it'll work though. The more time passes the more it becomes clear to me that the Wii was a one time thing and Sony/MS has the core gamer market on lockdown with various price entry points with their new consoles. I really don't see an audience for Nintendo besides their ~10 million diehard fans, especially with all the bridges that have been burned with 3rd parties.



 

Someone comparing rumors to the NX whic most info we got are also rumors......



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Swordmasterman said:
Why people are treating Xbox Scorpion, and PS4 Neo, as new Gen consoles ? they will just be the same consoles but more powerful, this isn't a new Gen, because all PS4 Neo, and Xbox Scorpion's games will have to run on previous consoles.

THIS! 



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Jranation said:

THIS! 

I'm wondering the same myself, no game is going to exclusively use any extra power so I don't get how it's any issue for NX if the platform is on par or more powerful than the current models.



Nintendo has a perception problem with their consoles being weak already, we live in a Digital Foundry world now, where they will highlight your consoles shortcomings weekly.

Microsoft and Sony are starting a serious arms race, that I don't think Nintendo can afford to participate in.



_Jameson said:
Nintendo has a perception problem with their consoles being weak already, we live in a Digital Foundry world now, where they will highlight your consoles shortcomings weekly.

Microsoft and Sony are starting a serious arms race, that I don't think Nintendo can afford to participate in.

I agree.  If I were Nintendo, I'd make the NX stronger than the PS4 and jump on the unified library concept between handheld and console as the NX's big selling point while defending the top spot in the handheld market with everything I had.  Along with that, I'd leave the NX open to upgrades like with the supplemental computing device so as to give NX console owners an option if they want neo/scorpion-like horsepower.

In fact, I think Nintendo would be better off if they had a supplemental computing device to act as their version of the Sony/Microsoft console upgrades.  That way, the base NX would act like the 'cheaper model' and NX owners won't have to waste as much money to get an upgrade compared to xbox/PS4 owners.



vivster said:
You seem to be under the assumption that Nintendo was ever in competition with Sony and Microsoft. Neo and Scorpion will have zero effect on NX sales.

Sure...  Just like PS3/PS4 and X360/X1 had zero effect on Wii U sales.



Soundwave said:
Swordmasterman said:
Why people are treating Xbox Scorpion, and PS4 Neo, as new Gen consoles ? they will just be the same consoles but more powerful, this isn't a new Gen, because all PS4 Neo, and Xbox Scorpion's games will have to run on previous consoles.

6 TFLOP vs. 1.2 TFLOP is basically pretty much a new generation device, it may have backwards compatibility but that's basically bordering on a new generation, that's a massive hardware leap. 

XBox 360 (250 GFLOPS) to XBox One (1.2 TF) is a 5x performance leap, XB1 (1.2 TF) to XB Scorpio (6 TF) is pretty much the same leap. 

Even the PS4Neo surprised me, 4 TFLOP console for $299 this year is pretty insane. 

 

The Neo/Scorpio can be a billion times more powerful, but as long the games they recieve are the same ones the PS4/XB1 get then it's not a new generation and the NX would still only need to match PS4/XB1 to be in contention for those third party games.