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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - PS4Neo + XBScorpio ... Is NX Screwed?

I think some people will (rightfully) grumble about Neo and Scorpio, but really in the long term all they will do is help Sony/MS by locking more people into their ecosystems.

It's going to be about ecosystems now, not just specific hardware as a poster mentioned earlier in the thread.



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It might be doomed. Nintendo better has a damn good marketing, wii-like plan.



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i dont think so, the NX will be defeniatley cheaper and will play all handheld games as well



Ruler said:
i dont think so, the NX will be defeniatley cheaper and will play all handheld games as well

Are people really going to buy a home console to play handheld games though? I think they'd just buy the ... handheld. 

Cheap might be a benefit the problem is though Neo/Scorpio almost certainly push the existing XB1/PS4 into the "cheap" price category too. 



Soundwave said:

The thing is it wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo was hoping to do this with the NX but it looks like Sony is beating them to the punch entirely and MS is thinking the same thing too. 

So it kinda leaves Nintendo now in a very awkward position. 

I was thinking exactly the same.

I think Nintendo had planned to release the NX in 2017and then release an enhanced NX by 2020 to try and reach parity with the PS5 and neXtBox, if not they'd be left with another Wii and Wii U.

But now it seems that both Sony and MS beat them to it, and apparently this is now the business model their consoles will have; one of incremental upgrades while being able to play the same games as the lesser device. 



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So in 2017 are we in reality going in to a new generation?

are the second generation of Xbox 1 and PS4 really going to have the same games as the first generation?



Soundwave said:
COKTOE said:
Nintendo was already in trouble. These iterative may worsen said trouble for them, but really, if the old model were to still be followed, the new Sony and MS systems would have been released not too long after the "NX" anyways, and you can bet both Sony and MS would have more info out on their forthcoming systems around the NX launch.

Well I think if you told me all this 8 months ago ... PS4 Neo would be a surprise. XB Scorpio not so much, but Sony, the market leader also making an iterative console and something that's a fairly large jump to 4 TFLOP. 

Dunno. I wonder if Nintendo saw that coming or are feeling a little blindsighted right now. 

That's a good question sir, and I'd like to know the answer. I certainly don't subscribe to the idea that Nintendo themselves don't see Sony and MS as competetors (even though they have stated as much), nor believe that Nintendo "doesn't care" what their competition is doing, or when they're doing it. 



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You seem to be under the assumption that Nintendo was ever in competition with Sony and Microsoft. Neo and Scorpion will have zero effect on NX sales.



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I still think that NX will be dead on arrival.


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spemanig said:
Soundwave said:

No one is Apple. I wish people would just stop with this analogy, there is no Apple of anything, Apple is Apple, they are a unique situation.

If Nintendo was even 1/10th of Apple the Wii U and 3DS would be selling far, far better (or probably never would've been made in the first place). 

Even Apple is largely just coasting off what Steven Jobs set into motion 10+ years ago, they succeed now because of their iconic fashion-brand status (particularily with fashion concious women) and extremely high end pricing. They are not a "toy/kids" brand association that Nintendo has. 

Apple wasn't always post-iPhone Apple. Nintendo is pre-iPhone Apple right now. When NX comes out, they'll be post-iPhone Apple.

Mixed with Disney. And they'll coast off of that for 10+ years, just like Apple.

So Sony is Apple right now coming from last gen, and you think  Nintendo can be hypothetically in the same situation as Sony in a few years.

And no Blackberry was not on top before iPhone, Nokia was. Pre-iPhone Apple was still a juggernaut with iTunes and iPod.

Nintendo is more like post-iPhone Nokia/Blackberry. Out of fashion, trying to reinvent itself but ultimately just too little too late.