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Nymeria said:
"Rigged" is the wrong term.

The argument is that before a single vote is cast the system allows for certain candidates to have massive advantages in regards to funding and connections.

To use an analogy, every team in a sport plays the same rules and the officiating is as fair as humanly possible. 90% of the time the rich team beats the poor team. Fans complain that it is unfair, not because the game is fixed, but that the resources each side had is so unequal.

Clinton was an absolute juggernaut coming into this election cycle. She has name recognition and is very connected within politics and her party. Couple that with huge donors and she should have steam rolled to the nomination. Webb, O'Malley, and Chafee offered zero resistance to her.

Sanders for decades has been this odd outsider who is passionate and was routinely mocked in the senate. When he announced his candidacy he was given no chance and had to make up a huge gap between himself and Clinton. Despite the fact he will likely finish a couple hundred delegates short he did better than any reasonable observer expected back in January.

Clinton will be the Democrats nominee unless something catastrophic occurs. The question is if she will be President, which right now feels like a coin flip. Can argue about polling data showing Sanders being far stronger against Trump than Clinton, but that is not how the parties pick their nominee.

In studying the demographics I think Sanders campaign will be noted as a precursor for a future president. The incredible swing in attitudes based on generation means words like "socialism" stopped scaring people and rethinking many old ideas such as the war on drugs, health care, and taxes. I could see a Elizabeth Warren making a run down the road and winning as this generations impact on political discourse becomes more pronounced.

I pretty much agree with everything you're saying except for one thing. As someone who is from Maryland, I can tell you that O'Malley would have been screwed even if Clinton wasn't there. Two things screwed him over. First, He had just finished two terms as an awful governor of Maryland where he was known as the guy who never met a tax he didn't like. Nationally, he became infamously known as the rain tax guy. Second, right around the time when he started his campaign, the rioting in Baltimore happened. His connection to that is because the police corruption in Baltimore could be traced back to his time as Baltimore's mayor where he proceeded to play with crime statistics by telling chief of police to not allow certain crimes to get a report and it was under his administration where cops were given permission to carry out more arrests and be more hard on people than they were in the past. He then used these falsified statistics when running for governor. He did the same thing with education. Baltimore City schools are terrible. He "fixed" the problem by lowering the graduating standards. More kids graduated and just like crime, he ran on education when he ran for governor. 

So with his having a record of both extreme taxation and police corruption on his record, he never had a chance.



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