Generations dont matter and never have.

All that matters is the performance relative to competition. Thats why we used to use gens.

Nintendo started hanging behinde a gen, selling less powerfull cheaper consoles to make profit.

Now there are half gens upgrades. Gens dont matters.

NX will be next gen compaired to the Wii U (a massive upgrade) but compaired to the competition if rumors are true, not so much.

NX will be "current" gen when it releases, and competes against the PS4 and Xbox One.

Also so far the new Xbox isnt called a "xbox 2", but a Xbox One-ii (one-two).

Its the same gen as the XB1 & PS4.

Lol..... wishful thinking much?

Ok. lets just put something in perspective. If PS4neo has a GPU that is twice as powerful as the one in the PS4, there id only two ways for that to happen.

1. Double the GPU compute units from its current 18 - 36 or,

2. Keep everything as is and instead double the GPU clock from its curremt 800mhz to 1600mhz.

Both of those are IMPOSSIBLE  to do at a 28nm process and and put it in a box the size of the PS4 and dofr thr latter, jist flat out impossoble cause the chip wont be stable.

For the PS4neo to be using a 36CU GPU, that can only happen with Polaris. Only rraly question here is what clock Sony chooses to run it at. 900mhz/1200mhz+ is really all the difference between 4TF and 6TF as far as GPUs go. Well more like 4TF and 5.5TF but you know, 6TF sounds cooler.

Well. Almost.

You see for every process node like 28nm, 14nm etc'. - Fabs can have multiple types of processes, low power and low leakage, but low clock, high power and high leakage, high clock etc'.
Fabs market that to chip designers too.

GPU's take advantage of the fact that their workload is highly parallel, so it makes sense to go with more hardware and go with a more energy conservative process that in turn also tends to limit clockrate.
With that said a 28nm 18CU part running at 1.6ghz could be entirely possible, but it wouldn't be a simple case of grabbing a random Radeon off the shelf and overclocking it, there would need to be some work done under the hood... But then you may also introduce bottlenecks into the chip design itself, yields could suffer. etc'.

I have legit seen people on PC OC enthusiast websites overclock Radeon 7850's (PS4 Equivalent GPU) to 1.5ghz, but keep in mind with that clock and voltage, it's a chip that will suffer from the effects of electromigration pretty rapidly, the transisters were never designed to be pushed that hard.

1. neo, 2. xbox 3. nx my guess

No, i think ps4 néo is 30% more powerfull than ps4, GPU 2.4 TFLOPS and VR ready... 

First leaks have generated hope and fake's fanboys... 

Where are you getting your info? cause the leaks i hsve seen has been clear to say the PS4 is using a GPU with 36CU. Thats 18CU more than whats on the curremt PS4. And from the same leaks, the rumoured clock speed is 900+Mhz, thats how they arrived at its rumoured 4TF+ performance rating. 

These are all rumours tho, but where or how are you arriving at the PS4neo being 30% more powerful? I am actually curious to know. 

nevermind him, no matter how many times you explain how things are based on facts he just keeps pulling these figures from his back pocket. i suspect he has no idea whatsoever what he's talking about :)

You are saying we can't expect Sony to advertise PS4k version as PSVR experience, even while selling to PS4.0 base?
If qualty of experience doesn't matter in establishing a new format, only install base, why not PS3/VR? 
Of course, Sony is making sure PSVR will sell to PS4.0 base.  They are also making sure that any complaints hinging from PS4.0 power
are neutralized by PS4.5 being available, so PSVR itself isn't judged poorly, it' s understood as stepping stone to VR experience.
Or ultimately... Why is Sony co-launching them?   They aren't going to sell any more consoles in the next year by launching 4K.
They could have dropped prices further just by existing 28nn fabs getting cheaper at this stage in the game, and sell more @ lower price.

Now that the Ps4.5 and xb1.1 will release and be 3-5x more powerful I expect the NX to be Nintendos last console and sales should do less then Wii U.

pretty simple... my r9 390 was $500 canadian when I got it when it released.  

Also, the rest of my computer is only high end parts which cost a pretty penny.  I could probably buy 5 Xbox 2's with the cost of my pc.

Now my monitor and keyboard and mouse could get me EVEN MORE new xbox's as well..  Keyboard 200, mouse 100....monitor $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

so if I wanted to save money i could get an xbox 2 with less performnace but cost 10-20x less.

sure i could build a cheaper computer...but i dont wanna do that.  Its always been a hobby of mine etc.