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ihh on 30 May 2016

sorry dp



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zorg1000 on 30 May 2016
setsunatenshi said:
Miyamotoo said:

People are not familiar with how much money Nintendo make from hardware and peripheral for their consoles, its huge part of Nintendo profit. Also Nintendo they are fees they getting like platform holder, also they taking whole profit from their games they dont need to share with anyone, and one of most important things is when they have their platform they their rules, they can whatever they want and we all know Nintendo like to play buy its own rules.

Taking fees as a platform holder for which 3rd parties? the nearly 0 support they get and similar sales from them? selling exclusively to an audience of 10M when they could sell to a 10 times bigger audience is just stupid in all accounts.

No one is talking about handhelds, they seem to still be doing ok on that front, but who knows for how long.

You can't just ignore their handhelds when talking about going 3rd party. If Nintendo were to stop making home consoles than it would make more sense for them to divert all resources to making sure their handhelds are a success.

You cant expect Nintendo to release games on PS4/Neo, XB1/Scorpio, PC & Mobile while also releasing a steady stream of games for their next-generation handheld, its just not feasible. 



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KLAMarine on 30 May 2016
FallingTitan said:
Now that the Ps4.5 and xb1.1 will release and be 3-5x more powerful I expect the NX to be Nintendos last console and sales should do less then Wii U.

Less power than the competition doesn't always mean less sales.



FallingTitan on 31 May 2016
Miyamotoo said:
FallingTitan said:
Now that the Ps4.5 and xb1.1 will release and be 3-5x more powerful I expect the NX to be Nintendos last console and sales should do less then Wii U.

You expect that only if you dont know what are main reasons why Wii U failed so bad. I cant see NX selling less than Wii U in any case beacuse its not power one of main reasons why Wii U sold so bad. Wii U is bloody mess, Nintendo made so many mistakes with it that hardly they can to do all those mistakes again, but main reasons why Wii U failed so bad are: bad, weak and misunderstood marketing (you still have some people that still think Wii U is addon for Wii, or they dont know that Wii U exist at all), high price compared to competition (PS3/Xbox 360, because Wii U runed exactly same multiplatform games even some games runed worse while Wii U had higher price of around $100), and weak launch and 1st year linep with constant delays.

Just good marketing, affordable price ($249-300), great launch and 1st year lineup (just new Zelda is much stronger than Wii U had in entire 1st year), and power of hardware that will be enuf for XB1/PS4 multiplats ports, will be more that unuf that NX easily pass Wii U numbers (probably in first two years) regardles Sony and MS consoles, not mention that NX will probably have shared library with NX handheld and that will lead to higher popularity of NX console.

This handheld being scalable and shared could save nintendo in consoles.  I love my wii U but do feel a bit burned by it.  I wont get an NX but I will get the new handheld they make and hope it plays lower res NX games.

 

And it seems in 2017 the Teraflop spec will be what the people will use to buy.  bro mine does more flops!



setsunatenshi on 31 May 2016
zorg1000 said:
setsunatenshi said:

Taking fees as a platform holder for which 3rd parties? the nearly 0 support they get and similar sales from them? selling exclusively to an audience of 10M when they could sell to a 10 times bigger audience is just stupid in all accounts.

No one is talking about handhelds, they seem to still be doing ok on that front, but who knows for how long.

You can't just ignore their handhelds when talking about going 3rd party. If Nintendo were to stop making home consoles than it would make more sense for them to divert all resources to making sure their handhelds are a success.

You cant expect Nintendo to release games on PS4/Neo, XB1/Scorpio, PC & Mobile while also releasing a steady stream of games for their next-generation handheld, its just not feasible. 

they can keep all resources making what they make well, games. They make terrible consoles that get no support and only the always shrinking Nintendo fanbase cares about. If you like their games you'd be as much as likely to buy them on pc or on a different console that actually can perform well.

they obviously will do whatever they want, i have no dog in this fight and am totally dispassioned about it. i'm just seeing where they could both be much more successful and also keep their fans happy.

 

if they decided to stop making console games and focus only on handhelds, good luck for them... we will wait and see what they release 



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Akeos on 31 May 2016

 

setsunatenshi said:
Intrinsic said:

Where are you getting your info? cause the leaks i hsve seen has been clear to say the PS4 is using a GPU with 36CU. Thats 18CU more than whats on the curremt PS4. And from the same leaks, the rumoured clock speed is 900+Mhz, thats how they arrived at its rumoured 4TF+ performance rating. 

These are all rumours tho, but where or how are you arriving at the PS4neo being 30% more powerful? I am actually curious to know. 

nevermind him, no matter how many times you explain how things are based on facts he just keeps pulling these figures from his back pocket. i suspect he has no idea whatsoever what he's talking about :)

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NX juste need supports UE 4,  do some Nice selling and third editors will coming quickly... 

If NX is hybrid,  Nintendo will have better line-up than wiiu or 3DS,  all Nintendo 's games will be making for NX... NX will have the bigger list of exclusifs games,  and that is why ARM or x86 aren't important... 



Jumpinbeans on 31 May 2016

I can't see MSFT winning this or the next gen........

Right now the PS4 is the clear winner and both consoles are looking at a mid cycle upgrade.

THE PS4.2 will i presume be the standard ps4 coupled with the extra processing power required for VR built into the new console. This will mean a cheaper VR package down the line too. 4k output i can't see as being required or needed. That can come with the next generation in circa 5+yrs time.

The XBOX1.2 is in a much tougher position. If it has a significant performance boost then game developers will be forced into providing two versions of the game which will increase development time and resources. It will possibly alienate the current users too as the basic game performance will need to be brought up to the ps4 to compete or exceed the better performance offered by the ps4. The other ting to factor in is how much support for a new boosted console from MSFT will there be especially if it becomes the focus and the xb1 users are moved back in the queue.