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Now that the Ps4.5 and xb1.1 will release and be 3-5x more powerful I expect the NX to be Nintendos last console and sales should do less then Wii U.



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Bryank75 said:
If all Xbox exclusives are going to PC, I don't see sense in anyone buying it unless it is your only option. If you have a decent PC and a PSNeo or a NX, that would give you the most games for your money...

You get all xbox exclusives, all pc exclusives (especially strategy and rpg's) and then you get PS or NX exclusives and console exclusives like Destiny etc.

It is surely the most efficient option.

pretty simple... my r9 390 was $500 canadian when I got it when it released.  

 

Also, the rest of my computer is only high end parts which cost a pretty penny.  I could probably buy 5 Xbox 2's with the cost of my pc.

 

Now my monitor and keyboard and mouse could get me EVEN MORE new xbox's as well..  Keyboard 200, mouse 100....monitor $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

so if I wanted to save money i could get an xbox 2 with less performnace but cost 10-20x less.

 

sure i could build a cheaper computer...but i dont wanna do that.  Its always been a hobby of mine etc.



FallingTitan said:
Now that the Ps4.5 and xb1.1 will release and be 3-5x more powerful I expect the NX to be Nintendos last console and sales should do less then Wii U.

You expect that only if you dont know what are main reasons why Wii U failed so bad. I cant see NX selling less than Wii U in any case beacuse its not power one of main reasons why Wii U sold so bad. Wii U is bloody mess, Nintendo made so many mistakes with it that hardly they can to do all those mistakes again, but main reasons why Wii U failed so bad are: bad, weak and misunderstood marketing (you still have some people that still think Wii U is addon for Wii, or they dont know that Wii U exist at all), high price compared to competition (PS3/Xbox 360, because Wii U runed exactly same multiplatform games even some games runed worse while Wii U had higher price of around $100), and weak launch and 1st year linep with constant delays.

Just good marketing, affordable price ($249-300), great launch and 1st year lineup (just new Zelda is much stronger than Wii U had in entire 1st year), and power of hardware that will be enuf for XB1/PS4 multiplats ports, will be more that unuf that NX easily pass Wii U numbers (probably in first two years) regardles Sony and MS consoles, not mention that NX will probably have shared library with NX handheld and that will lead to higher popularity of NX console.



Miyamotoo said:
FallingTitan said:
Now that the Ps4.5 and xb1.1 will release and be 3-5x more powerful I expect the NX to be Nintendos last console and sales should do less then Wii U.

You expect that only if you dont know what are main reasons why Wii U failed so bad. I cant see NX selling less than Wii U in any case beacuse its not power one of main reasons why Wii U sold so bad. Wii U is bloody mess, Nintendo made so many mistakes with it that hardly they can to do all those mistakes again, but main reasons why Wii U failed so bad are: bad, weak and misunderstood marketing (you still have some people that still think Wii U is addon for Wii, or they dont know that Wii U exist at all), high price compared to competition (PS3/Xbox 360, because Wii U runed exactly same multiplatform games even some games runed worse while Wii U had higher price of around $100), and weak launch and 1st year linep with constant delays.

Just good marketing, affordable price ($249-300), great launch and 1st year lineup (just new Zelda is much stronger than Wii U had in entire 1st year), and power of hardware that will be enuf for XB1/PS4 multiplats ports, will be more that unuf that NX easily pass Wii U numbers (probably in first two years) regardles Sony and MS consoles, not mention that NX will probably have shared library with NX handheld and that will lead to higher popularity of NX console.

yeah yeah... that's it!!

Or... just hear me out on this one, I know it's a crazy idea, but... what if people realize that Nintendo hardware is pretty much destined to be low specced and mostly designed for party games and family friendly games, and for these people, much like the Wii was 'good enough' with it's Wii sports, for many people the Wii U will be good enough with it's Smash Bros and Zelda (it's still supposed to come out on Wii U right?), leaving little to no incentive for people who purchased the Wii U to upgrade.

Yeah I know, it's just a crazy idea, probably it will sell 100+ Million consoles in the next 5 years... right?..... right.......?



setsunatenshi said:
Miyamotoo said:

You expect that only if you dont know what are main reasons why Wii U failed so bad. I cant see NX selling less than Wii U in any case beacuse its not power one of main reasons why Wii U sold so bad. Wii U is bloody mess, Nintendo made so many mistakes with it that hardly they can to do all those mistakes again, but main reasons why Wii U failed so bad are: bad, weak and misunderstood marketing (you still have some people that still think Wii U is addon for Wii, or they dont know that Wii U exist at all), high price compared to competition (PS3/Xbox 360, because Wii U runed exactly same multiplatform games even some games runed worse while Wii U had higher price of around $100), and weak launch and 1st year linep with constant delays.

Just good marketing, affordable price ($249-300), great launch and 1st year lineup (just new Zelda is much stronger than Wii U had in entire 1st year), and power of hardware that will be enuf for XB1/PS4 multiplats ports, will be more that unuf that NX easily pass Wii U numbers (probably in first two years) regardles Sony and MS consoles, not mention that NX will probably have shared library with NX handheld and that will lead to higher popularity of NX console.

yeah yeah... that's it!!

Or... just hear me out on this one, I know it's a crazy idea, but... what if people realize that Nintendo hardware is pretty much destined to be low specced and mostly designed for party games and family friendly games, and for these people, much like the Wii was 'good enough' with it's Wii sports, for many people the Wii U will be good enough with it's Smash Bros and Zelda (it's still supposed to come out on Wii U right?), leaving little to no incentive for people who purchased the Wii U to upgrade.

Yeah I know, it's just a crazy idea, probably it will sell 100+ Million consoles in the next 5 years... right?..... right.......?

Hardly Nintendo can do exactly same thing like they done with Wii twice, something similar maybe, but again very underpowered hardware with strong gimmick that sell tens of millions to casuals, hardly.



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Miyamotoo said:
setsunatenshi said:

yeah yeah... that's it!!

Or... just hear me out on this one, I know it's a crazy idea, but... what if people realize that Nintendo hardware is pretty much destined to be low specced and mostly designed for party games and family friendly games, and for these people, much like the Wii was 'good enough' with it's Wii sports, for many people the Wii U will be good enough with it's Smash Bros and Zelda (it's still supposed to come out on Wii U right?), leaving little to no incentive for people who purchased the Wii U to upgrade.

Yeah I know, it's just a crazy idea, probably it will sell 100+ Million consoles in the next 5 years... right?..... right.......?

Hardly Nintendo can do exactly same thing like they done with Wii twice, something similar maybe, but again very underpowered hardware with strong gimmick that sell tens of millions to casuals, hardly.

They should just stick to what they are good at, make games, make good games and sell them everywhere under the sun. Boom, more money made, less money spent in R&D and everyone's happy.

But it's ok, perhaps after this gen they will have no other option but that one.



setsunatenshi said:
Miyamotoo said:

Hardly Nintendo can do exactly same thing like they done with Wii twice, something similar maybe, but again very underpowered hardware with strong gimmick that sell tens of millions to casuals, hardly.

They should just stick to what they are good at, make games, make good games and sell them everywhere under the sun. Boom, more money made, less money spent in R&D and everyone's happy.

But it's ok, perhaps after this gen they will have no other option but that one.

People are not familiar with how much money Nintendo make from hardware and peripheral for their consoles, its huge part of Nintendo profit. Also Nintendo they are fees they getting like platform holder, also they taking whole profit from their games they dont need to share with anyone, and one of most important things is when they have their platform they their rules, they can whatever they want and we all know Nintendo like to play buy its own rules.



Miyamotoo said:
setsunatenshi said:

They should just stick to what they are good at, make games, make good games and sell them everywhere under the sun. Boom, more money made, less money spent in R&D and everyone's happy.

But it's ok, perhaps after this gen they will have no other option but that one.

People are not familiar with how much money Nintendo make from hardware and peripheral for their consoles, its huge part of Nintendo profit. Also Nintendo they are fees they getting like platform holder, also they taking whole profit from their games they dont need to share with anyone, and one of most important things is when they have their platform they their rules, they can whatever they want and we all know Nintendo like to play buy its own rules.

Taking fees as a platform holder for which 3rd parties? the nearly 0 support they get and similar sales from them? selling exclusively to an audience of 10M when they could sell to a 10 times bigger audience is just stupid in all accounts.

No one is talking about handhelds, they seem to still be doing ok on that front, but who knows for how long.



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setsunatenshi said:
Miyamotoo said:

People are not familiar with how much money Nintendo make from hardware and peripheral for their consoles, its huge part of Nintendo profit. Also Nintendo they are fees they getting like platform holder, also they taking whole profit from their games they dont need to share with anyone, and one of most important things is when they have their platform they their rules, they can whatever they want and we all know Nintendo like to play buy its own rules.

Taking fees as a platform holder for which 3rd parties? the nearly 0 support they get and similar sales from them? selling exclusively to an audience of 10M when they could sell to a 10 times bigger audience is just stupid in all accounts.

No one is talking about handhelds, they seem to still be doing ok on that front, but who knows for how long.

Those that release games for platform, even there are only few of them on Wii U they still get fees, but that is just small part of benefit being platform holder for Nintendo. Again, Nintendo on its platform make biggest profit for its games, Nintendo on its platform make profit from hardware and peripheral, Nintendo with own platform have complete control over their plans and they basically can do whatever they want, they making they own rules.

Its funny how some people thing Nintendo will exit hardware business just because Wii U is failed, completely ignoring fact that last gen Nintendo had best selling console and had best selling generation of console hardware ever (Wii+DS sold around 255m units). One failed console doesnt mean nothing for Nintendo, they history is based on hits and misses, for instance people forget Virtual Boy but after Virtual Boy they had several sucufule handhelds.