1337 Gamer said:
Good then stick with 7. No one is ultimately going to force you to upgrade. But you buying an operating system does not entitle you to updates indefinitely. Microsoft generally gives an EXTREMELY generous 7 - 10 year period of gradually decreasing updates. This same shit happens every time a new windows comes out. No matter how good it is (and myself and many tech experts agree EVERY version if windows has been better than its previous iteration. If not by immediately then atleast by the time service pack 1 is released) but a very vocal minority bitch and moan about how it sucks and what they had was better. and yet EVERY time people eventually come around. Holdouts such as yourself certainly shouldnt hold progress back. Might as well accept the inevitable and start getting used to linux. I hope your pretty damn tech savvy.
More than anything I want to see developers really push directX 12 and climb on board. The sooner everyone upgrades the faster they will be forced to do so. So many people here talk so much shit about Windows 10 but its great. Have you even honestly given windows 10 a try? I VERY seriously doubt it and if you didnt like it please give a real reason as to why windows 7 is so much better?
So many people bitch about customizibility and having complete control over your system. Please name 1 damned feature or optionm that you use that you are unable to gain control of and access? While a few of the deeper options in windows 10 took me a little while to find i did so and now my system runs amazing. Libraries and indexing are SOOO much faster, the UI is much prettier and more functional, Direct X 12, Edge Browser, improved NVME support and the list goes on and on. Windows 7 is obsolete and dated.
So please tell me why windows 10 is so bad? And dont just say I dont need it or what i have is good enough. That isnt a valid excuse to stick your head in the sand and ignore progress. Or if you do dont complain when you get left by the wayside.
Edit: Im sorry if im coming off as hostile. Its just that the hate that windows 10 gets is absolutely mindblowing. Any person that has actually put in more than a few minutes into learning the ins and outs of the new system all have positive things to say. is windows 10 perfect? No absolutely not, but its infinitely more modern and faster than Windows 7. Absolutely no one who has really given it a whirl would disagree. Most of peoples complaints are just stuff they heard on the internet and not representative of their true experiences with the system. Seriously give it a try. Go through and customize it to your liking and use it for a week, and then come back and tell me that windows 7 is better.
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Seriously, you really shouldn't call people's complaints "bitching and moaning". It's arrogant and disrespectful, as is the accusation that anyone complaining is lying about having tried Windows 10. It's also absolute bullshit. People are having the same problems now that they had last summer, which is ridiculous.
I've had Windows 10 since December. Do not tell me that I'm making up the issues I've had.
Upgrading my i5 has been less of a problem but still very annoying.
- Repeating download/install loop, installation that froze for a long period
- Sound was broken until SP1
- Would not use W7's internet drivers so I couldn't register or update W10 and had to DL them elsewhere
Those would have been an absolute pain in the ass for someone with little technical ability, especially finding and installing drivers manually.
Upgrading on my AMD Phenom, on the other hand, was a disaster.
- First, one-in-five boots, the OS would freeze on start-up. The desktop would appear, you could move the mouse a bit, then it would totally freeze. After some digging, it turns out that Microsoft's quick start feature was the culprit and other people were having the same problem. I had to turn that off, which made booting W10 slower than W7.
- Games that crashed would also crash the entire OS about half the time. Playing the same game on W7 did not have the same effect, as it would simply crash to desktop. This also would result in the OS not loading after W10 restarted on its own. It would start to load, reach the splash screen, and freeze, requiring another reboot. However, if I were quick enough to hit the manual reset button before Microsoft's BSoD, sometimes it would not require a second boot.
- W10 changed many of the folder options I'd been using for years. What's more, it made it so some of those options weren't even there by default and I had to re-enable them. After I did that, using those options made loading folders with a lot of content SO SLOW. It also changed folder options a couple times with updates, which is annoying.
- Chrome froze after the upgrade and then simply disappeared. All the icons and shortcuts vanished. Reinstalling did make it work, though.
- On that topic, I used to use a combination of Chrome/Opera so if one had problems, I could use the other. However, W10 seemed to break Opera and I couldn't get video plug-ins to work. Worse, if Opera froze, Chrome would ALSO freeze. The same with IE if it was open. It was hilarious in a way but also frustrating, as W10 never seemed to simply close things that stopped working and I would have to go to the task manager.
I'm pretty sure I'm forgetting other issues, as well. It seemed like a constant stream of problems.
So, please, do not tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about or that I'm just making up stuff after having W10 for 5 minutes.
I can totally understand why people with older machines would not want to upgrade. There are TONS of different issues out there that people have had and are having. Just because you like W10 doesn't mean it's unicorns and rainbows for everyone. If you're super tech savvy like you claim then you should understand that.
On the other hand, what's the benefit for people who just want to browse the web or use Office and are perfectly content with using an old PC? There is barely any difference for them. They don't care about DX12. They might absolutely hate Tiles (I know I do). Yes, file structure is much improved with W10 but, if you have your file system customized to your liking, W10 screws it up pretty badly, as it meshes poorly with W7's Library system (which did suck).
If Microsoft was trying to force this upgrade for the sake of the consumer, they'd simply make the upgrade free for anyone with W7 or W8 without a time limit.
On a personal level, if absolutely pisses me off that there WERE more and better options to customize W10 in the beta but they took them out with the release version. That just highlights the things people don't like about Microsoft.