As a PC gamer. Uncharted 4 as one whole package... | |||
| has exceeded all games before it. | 513 | 49.00% | |
| I've seen better. | 239 | 22.83% | |
| Roughly the same as games I've played on PC. | 93 | 8.88% | |
| Indifference. I do not own a high end PC. | 202 | 19.29% | |
| Total: | 1,047 | ||
Porcupine_I said:
...and again you ignoring what I originally said |
If by that you mean the argument that "PC doesn't count because there's always a better PC", that's a flawed argument that does not discount that high end PCs can outgun PS4 graphically.
curl-6 said:
If by that you mean the argument that "PC doesn't count because there's always a better PC", that's a flawed argument that does not discount that high end PCs can outgun PS4 graphically. |
No, that is not what i mean. I mean the part i also said, that you keep ignoring so conveniently
“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”
- George Orwell, ‘1984’
Porcupine_I said:
No, that is not what i mean. I mean the part i also said, that you keep ignoring so conveniently |
Which part?
curl-6 said:
Which part? |
You what the problem here is? You cut a part of my original post from your reply and decided only to adress the first part.
You know what the first word of the second part was? It was "seriously". You know what that means? It means you wasted your time discussing the part that was meant as a joke.
And no, i'm not going to tell you what that second part was. You decided to ignore it, you find yourself if you want to have a discussion.
“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”
- George Orwell, ‘1984’
Porcupine_I said:
You what the problem here is? You cut a part of my original post from your reply and decided only to adress the first part. You know what the first word of the second part was? It was "seriously". You know what that means? It means you wasted your time discussing the part that was meant as a joke. And no, i'm not going to tell you what that second part was. You decided to ignore it, you find yourself if you want to have a discussion. |
Well, I read the whole post initially, so if I omitted it, I must have deemed it not worth discussing, hence I have no interest in going back to it now.
curl-6 said:
Well, I read the whole post initially, so if I omitted it, I must have deemed it not worth discussing, hence I have no interest in going back to it now. |
Taking the easy way once more
“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”
- George Orwell, ‘1984’
| curl-6 said: Of course software matters. But ultimately software is bound by the hardware it is running on. You can have beautiful games on PS4. You can have beautiful games on Wii U. Developers with great technical and artistic talent can work wonders with limited silicon. Games like Uncharted 4 and Mario Kart 8 are a testiment to this; working within your limits to create beauty with the tools available to you. Hell, Kirby's Epic Yarn is still one of the best looking games I've ever seen, and that's on the freaking Wii. On the flipside though, with stronger hardware you can achieve technically superior results. There isn't anything on PS4 that could not be done on a high end PC, but you can do plenty on a high end PC that PS4 could not do. |
Software is equally important as the hardware. PCs get outclassed by super computers all the time but nobody praises them over high end gaming PCs or consoles since practically no games are developed for it despite the nigh boundless computing power ...
Software is indeed circumscribed by hardware but the same applies to the opposite end too ...
Software improvements does have a ceiling but so does hardware if you didn't know ...
Could or capable of is not good enough if you have crappy software, in fact all that extra power may as well have not existed at all if no one decided to put in any sort of R&D in computer science research ...
Hardware that's a 1000x faster than the baseline is no better if the software on it runs a 1000x slower ...
fatslob-:O said:
Software is equally important as the hardware. PCs get outclassed by super computers all the time but nobody praises them over high end gaming PCs or consoles since practically no games are developed for it despite the nigh boundless computing power ... Software is indeed circumscribed by hardware but the same applies to the opposite end too ... Software improvements does have a ceiling but so does hardware if you didn't know ... Could or capable of is not good enough if you have crappy software, in fact all that extra power may as well have not existed at all if no one decided to put in any sort of R&D in computer science research ... Hardware that's a 1000x faster than the baseline is no better if the software on it runs a 1000x slower ... |
Except there is software that takes advantage of the extra power of PC via better-than-console settings for AA, resolution, filtering, draw distance, etc.
| curl-6 said: Except there is software that takes advantage of the extra power of PC via better-than-console settings for AA, resolution, filtering, draw distance, etc. |
And there's also software that doesn't take advantage of PC's extra power like ports of questionable quality, remember how that turned out for Quantum Break ? (Those GTX 970's will never be the same again after getting humiliated by what looks like an HD 7770 equivalent.)
Moral of the story is that you need both in the end ...
Taking one extreme over the other at the end of the spectrum simply isn't good no matter how you see it ...
Pemalite said:
I did answer the question. Aka. "I've seen better". |
I was going to say this. Uncharted looks damn good for a console game but the areas are TINY. Cutscenes have really small draw distances and the poor anti aliasing and only 900p resolution in many spots absolutely disqualify it from the contention of best looking game ever. And no, art style cannot be taken into consideration. Uncharted aimed for a realism and as such must go against the best looking games on PC.
Dont get me wrong Uncharted looks great, easily the best looking console game so far but even crysis 3 from 2012 and Star Citizen blow it out of the water. Especially when played at 4k/1440p at Ultra settings. Not really surprising considering the PS4 is a medium low end 2013 gaming rig in most respects.
I mostly play RTS and Moba style games now adays as well as ALOT of benchmarking. I do play other games however such as the witcher 3 and Crysis 3, and recently Ashes of the Singularity. I love gaming on the cutting edge and refuse to accept any compromises. Proud member of the Glorious PC Gaming Master Race. Long Live SHIO!!!!
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