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Overwatch...

Too expensive. 287 51.25%
 
Too cheap. 20 3.57%
 
The price is right. 127 22.68%
 
^If it had a campaign. 82 14.64%
 
Indifference. I just don... 44 7.86%
 
Total:560
Ganoncrotch said:
vivster said:

It doesn't seem like you followed the media the past months. Overwatch will be a mega hit and will have no trouble breaking the 10m player mark. Just because it's incredibly well done and polished. The fact that Battleborn is tanking because it's just slightly the same as Overwatch but gets compared to it constantly is another testament to this.

That said, I will never ever play it because sadly it's not my genre. But Even I love what I'm seeing.

The same media which said the Vita would make a joke of the DS and 3DS right?

https://mynintendonews.com/2011/07/02/nintendo-3ds-pachter-believes-playstation-vita-will-rob-nintendos-market-share/

This media?

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-07-12-ouya-console-will-be-as-big-as-iphone

or this media

http://attackofthefanboy.com/videos/new-details-street-fighter-v/

 

I just mean... Media can say whatever they like, but they're not spoon wielding Alakazams, they're just people at keyboards.

Sorry my fault. With media I mean youtubers, streamers and the huge fanbases that spawn new memes and fanart every nanosecond. I wouldn't give two shits about what's printed on news sites.

If you follow internet communities closely it's very easy to see what is about to become popular and what not. And let me tell you, Overwatch is mega popular right now and it will only get bigger as soon as the esports kick in. And that is not because it's blizzard or because it's hyped for no reason. It has great gameplay, is ultra polished and even more importantly it has great characters that people can get invested in.



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vivster said:
Ganoncrotch said:

The same media which said the Vita would make a joke of the DS and 3DS right?

https://mynintendonews.com/2011/07/02/nintendo-3ds-pachter-believes-playstation-vita-will-rob-nintendos-market-share/

This media?

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-07-12-ouya-console-will-be-as-big-as-iphone

or this media

http://attackofthefanboy.com/videos/new-details-street-fighter-v/

 

I just mean... Media can say whatever they like, but they're not spoon wielding Alakazams, they're just people at keyboards.

Sorry my fault. With media I mean youtubers, streamers and the huge fanbases that spawn new memes and fanart every nanosecond. I wouldn't give two shits about what's printed on news sites.

If you follow internet communities closely it's very easy to see what is about to become popular and what not. And let me tell you, Overwatch is mega popular right now and it will only get bigger as soon as the esports kick in. And that is not because it's blizzard or because it's hyped for no reason. It has great gameplay, is ultra polished and even more importantly it has great characters that people can get invested in.

Oh aye, I've seen some of that game ... "media" it was good stuff, sadly they were using blizzard assets in some of the "fanart"

http://www.pcgamesn.com/overwatch/blizzard-are-taking-down-overwatch-porn

This link is perfectly Safe for work, some of the links off of it... most likely are not, you've been warned... also if you haven't seen the stuff .... it's impressive!



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Pemalite said:
archer9234 said:

It also wasn't free for 4 years. See the thing is. Overwatch does have a internal story. That the creators made up, for each character, map etc. Certain characters have dialogs with each other. Certain maps make characters comment on them. So they do have stuff in place. Yeah, I agree. Overwatch is missing important full stuff. But, the designing phase of the game was a lot more complicated. Then what TF2 did. Being originally an addition to the Orange box. I see the game now, as a pilot episode to a show. Hopefully, once they start adding in more stuff. Will get the visual backstories. But yes. Doing it like this, is not a good idea. Because Street FIghter 5 has messed up their sales. Because of missing things.


Overwatch doesn't have a story, there is no story in the game, there are no animated cutscenes, there are no backstory tidbits or universe lore or conversations that take place between characters.
You need to look for that outside of the game.

The animated shorts are outside the game. That is stupid, yes. And needs to be inside the game.

But wtf. Do you not hear when certain characters talk to each other? I can easily tell you a few things about Zarya from the small bits of dialog. Zarya has a bad past with robots. So she hates Bastion. Robots are most likley the ones who attacked Russia. She has a friendship with Reinhardt and Mei. And has a comment about how the people, in Numbani are stupid to follow a certain political group. Also, look at Volskya Industries. She has a massive ad poster at point A. She's used as "I want you" poster, for motivation.

Other maps have posters. Luccio's music ads are on a few maps. Things like that. The mobile control trucks have tidbits for D'va and Tracer. Those type of things are in the game. Just blast the locker doors open.

 

Microtransactions do not belong in a full priced game that isn't even feature complete. It's a money grab.

This is one of the farest Microtransaction systems, for a game. It's the same like GTA V's. You might as well bitch at GTA too. Both games you can unlock everything, on your own. Their MT's are litterly only for people who are freaking lazy/rich/have no time. This is not Capcom on-disc type of bullshit. Or day 1 DLC.



archer9234 said:

The animated shorts are outside the game. That is stupid, yes. And needs to be inside the game.

But wtf. Do you not hear when certain characters talk to each other? I can easily tell you a few things about Zarya from the small bits of dialog. Zarya has a bad past with robots. So she hates Bastion. Robots are most likley the ones who attacked Russia. She has a friendship with Reinhardt and Mei. And has a comment about how the people, in Numbani are stupid to follow a certain political group. Also, look at Volskya Industries. She has a massive ad poster at point A. She's used as "I want you" poster, for motivation.

But that's just it. Zarya can team up with the Robots, which kinda' undermines her entire disdain for robots.
All the "Good" characters can be on the same team as "Evil" characters.

There is no character development and story in the game, if anything Blizzard should have played on the Good vs Evil concept a little more.

There is just no meaty information which helps describe the events we saw in the trailers which hinted at a massively rich and detailed world and characters  that we never get to look into. Not in this game at-least.
I have zero idea why any of the characters are the way they are unless I look to outside of the game.

archer9234 said:

Other maps have posters. Luccio's music ads are on a few maps. Things like that. The mobile control trucks have tidbits for D'va and Tracer. Those type of things are in the game. Just blast the locker doors open.

Those are more like little Easter Eggs.


archer9234 said:

This is one of the farest Microtransaction systems, for a game. It's the same like GTA V's. You might as well bitch at GTA too. Both games you can unlock everything, on your own. Their MT's are litterly only for people who are freaking lazy/rich/have no time. This is not Capcom on-disc type of bullshit. Or day 1 DLC.

Look. Lets be honest.
The reason why the Microtransactions are in the game is to earn Blizzard money, not to make mine or your life easier.

Blizzard also has a track record of patching, expanding their games as time goes on, which also means that the Microtransactions could be expanded upon at a later date so it's influence on the game becomes greater, which wouldn't be surprising. - They wanted to do paid maps in StarCraft at some point... And then split the game up into 3 parts.
And who can forget the Microtransactions in WoW and the horrible Diablo 3 market? Blizzard doesn't have a good track record in this aspect.

And regardless of how fair or not it is, it's a money grab in a game that is severely lacking from a content perspective and which is sold at a AAA price.

I criticise Microtransactions in every full priced AAA game, I am pretty predictable that way, GTA 5 included, don't assume I am hating on Overwatch just because it's Overwatch.

This is all just my opinion, whether you agree with it or not is entirely up to you, but one thing is for sure, I am not alone in my Opinion if you read around the internet.



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by far (imho) its the best multiplayer shooter ive ever played. havent had this much fun in years with a mp game. at the end of the day this "value" is in the eyes of the beholder , i could easily blow 40-60 dollars at a movie theatre or at a fine restaurant and the experience lasts me 2-3 hours most, overwatch will last me hundreds if not thousands of hours played with close online buddies its an absolute blast. the review scores its receiving are totally well deserved in my eyes.



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it should be free2play or 40 bucks without microtransactions



Ruler said:

yes there is bias for Blizzard espacially for these reviewers. No way in hell deserves overwatch a 90+ on metacritic. The user score is the more honest score the game should have gotten.

Clearly there is absolutely no bias for other games let alone exclusives, no way no how. When it suits your narritive and your emotions, you are more than willing to roll with it.



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Ruler said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Street Fighter is an established franchise with expectations for what it needs to have. In no way similar to Overwatch at all. SFV launched very bare bones and was penalized for it. To be honest I am glad Overwatch is scoring well. Maybe reviewers have finally removed the sticks from their asses in regards to reviewing MP only games.

That said, LOL @ Blizzard bias and user scores being the more "honest" scores. And how much Overwatch have you played?

One thing people forget when complaining about content value for $60 and how bad microtransactions are is that all future DLC for the game is completely free. All new maps, modes, and characters will be free of charge. And you don't need to grind for it or buy it with real money. It's completely free.

Its the truth look at the user scores not even on pc it reflects the reviewers, people arent happy paying 70€-50€ for it. I havent played overwatch, didnt even know about the beta. This game isnt in my aley, its online only and i think the artstyle and animations are very poor looking imo

You haven't played a single round of the game or the beta, yet feel qualified to say the reviewers are just biased and average user scores are more in line with the actual quality of the game. That's hilarious.



Having actually got Overwatch, I can honestly say that it deserves its price, for me at least. You need to know where to look though, because if you start judging the game with the fact that it's multiplayer only and that it has microtransactions in it...you're doing it wrong.

All the maps in the game are incredibly well done. At the very least they are all balanced.
The heroes are all very unique and fun to play with, I am curious to see what heroes Blizzard come up with next.
The graphics are actually very good for this type of game. People who say that they aren't good enough for the game's price should go play Paladins, which is basically Overwatch's F2P counterpart. See the difference. Actually, also see the difference in gameplay, maps and playable characters while you're at it.

Overwatch is an extremely well done game for what it's supposed to provide the customer. That, combined with Blizzard's support, translates into an upcoming top eSports scene.



John2290 said:

You gotta admit they played the metacritic game extremely trickily coming up to release. I would say they gave NDA's to all and lifted the ones they knew would be good. But Blizzard aren't alone in this tactic and the fact that it will have probably sold hundreds of thousands if not millions of copies is much more disturbing to me. 

Plenty play the game and others have gotten passes for it, it just happens that each time someone does it do a few who don't buy into the game start to point it out and ignore the rest or use it as the new flavour, this also happens with movies and likely music as well.

Not sure if it would be disturbing if they didn't try it and still sold millions of copies, people just haven't had a colourful TF2 like shooter for a long time since we've had years and years worth of gritty borwn and grey military shooters or old focus on past wars.

I tell you what though, we are all biased and we all have our fave flavours, some of which we'll likely never say is our favourite to be biased for (because that would render the original stance completely moot).



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