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Microsoft's software output?

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walsufnir said:
Risthel said:
Again, this thread isn't about games that they announced which will come out in the future. It is about their output in 2016 until now. And please don't tell me that a re-release of a 2015 game (Ori) and an add-on of a 2013 game (Killer Instinct) is worth mentioning.

It was you who explicitely named upcoming titles so I don't know why you expect others to not mention them. Like Celador says, moving goalposts. And as I said, yes, a good start for a decent thread. It shows

Where did I say you can't mention upcoming games?

Mention them if it makes you feel better, it doesn't change the drought up until now and the fact that new games are being cancelled and delayed, which is the point of the thread.



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Each year i see KI SeasonX mentioned and each year i laugh my ass off
though maybe i shouldn't. If yearly forzas count then might as well count that too. food for my thoughts..

Anyway as far as MY tastes go, Imo 2016 is the worst year yet (along with 2013 ofc). 2014 had SO, 2015 had TR, 2016 has nothing. Upcoming only Scalebound is of some interest and that's 2017

All 3 first party are having their own issues though. NIntendo..already beaten to death, nothing to add. Sony is taking a lot of time with some games. TLG should already be out*, no new info on GR2, Horizon is probably moving to 2017

*Seriously this pisses me off. Yes i waited a long time. I can wait more. And all that matters is getting to play it, no matter which year. But they said they'd only reintroduce the game when ready. Yet, it's gonna go another E3 without being out? Then why reintroduce it last year? If the rumored date of October 2016 is true then it should only have been reintroduced in E3 2016, not last year. Screw your year of dreams bs. Aside from being misleading it probably also hurts the game's market performance as there's no longer potential to cash in on last year's hype spike. Good job Sony. GG. No wonder Ueda and the rest of Team ICO left. Other than Team Gravity, Sony Japan is probaby a waste bucket right now. And some people expect a AAA JRG of FF scale, lmao..



About that list:
Yes, Fable Legends was cancelled. Seems it still didn't work after millions put in that project. Maybe they should have cancelled it two years ago and let Lionhead start all over again.
Project Spark is a bit sad. Low interest even after changing the business model, but i guess it was to complex compared to Mario Maker or Little Big Planet while the really ambitious prefer to build their games without editor.
Phantom Dust? Well, might be cancelled.
On the other side there's Cuphead, Halo Wars 2, probably Forza Horizon 3, ReCore, Gears 4, Scalebound, likely unanounced games...and not lots of remasters/remakes.

Yes, Quantum Break could have needed a bit more polish. Really liked it though.
Halo 5 is great multiplayerwise but disappointed with it's campaign, which is actually badly balanced if playing with the AI squad.
Forza 6 is just great though,

So, while the situation is far from perfect i don't see them focusing on old games.



BasilZero said:
Tell me when we see a new Banjo Kazooie or a HD remaster - then we'll talk,

Depends, is it to hate it or to play it?






Last year Xbox one's first quarters line up was great? As an company from the US their holiday quarters are most important.

Also people disregard or forget Game preview a bit to much.

People are playing games like Ark/elite Dangerous and more for a long time already and we see people say stuff as 'those games also release on other consoles' but we don't know for sure because some games never will leave preview, just like Day-z that was announced for Ps4 and would release when it is finished for a retail release and we still waiting.

I am just mentioning it because yesterday Subnautica released on game preview and it is one of those little popular games that attracts me to the xone. 






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I have no idea what MS is doing. I just see them canceling/closing games and closing studios. Whatever their master plan is with this... i can't see it.



Risthel said:
walsufnir said:

It was you who explicitely named upcoming titles so I don't know why you expect others to not mention them. Like Celador says, moving goalposts. And as I said, yes, a good start for a decent thread. It shows

Where did I say you can't mention upcoming games?

Mention them if it makes you feel better, it doesn't change the drought up until now and the fact that new games are being cancelled and delayed, which is the point of the thread.

Where did I say that you said that mentioning upcoming games isn't allowed?

The whole point is that apparently it wasn't clear what your thread was about. This is based on the OP which is at least not clear. So what you are trying to say is that MS' first party output is lacking?

Yeah, you are the first person in this world that thinks that way /s.

There were so many threads about it, it's only not apparent due to the ridiculous search function on this forum.

More interesting in the last weeks and months were discussions about the impact and importance of exclusives in nowadays gaming but this isn't adressed at all in this thread.

What these threads are mostly for is that people again are free to post their opinion about MS. But this is what forums are for: posting your own opinion.

 



Risthel said:
Am i the only one who have this impression? Recently I'm reading how many games Microsoft is adding to their backwards compatibility (which is nice), but they're having a poor 2016 so far regarding new titles: - Fable Legends: cancelled, Lionhead closed; - Project Spark: closed; - Phantom Dust: cancelled (not official but come on, you still believe it exists?); - Scalebound: delayed to 2017 - Recore: delayed (again, not official, but I think it's safe to say it). And maybe I'm forgetting something. The only game that came out is Quantum Break, which didn't actually set the world on fire. Not to say that their support for Windows 10 games is pretty bad, but this is another story. Microsoft's management of their first party software output has never been good to begin with this gen, but it's really becoming awful. It's almost like they are slowing giving up and that they don't care so much anymore. Even Phil Spencer stopped tweeting about his daily routine (or maybe the videogame media stopped making news for every tweet he's writing). I'm not expecting anything big at Microsoft E3 this year honestly, only games already announced and some sort of hardware revision. What do you think about it?

I think you get that impression because every new game added seems to result in a new news threads on some sites followed up by an updated BC list news thread.  

This probably speaks to news being slow more than MS focusing on it more. 

The phil Spencer Twitter daily news update was/is weird and does seem to have died down. I often wonder if he is the only game executive that knows what Twitter is or just happens to be the only one game journalists follow.  I don't use Twitter so I don't know the answer but at one point I wouldn't have been surprised to see a news story on Phil's bathroom schedule if it was tweeted.  

They have had a slow start but they did last year as well and ended strong.  Sony seems to spread their releases more and whether that's better or worse is subjective to the particular console owner I'd imagine.  

Old games:  I think they both focus about the same in different ways.  People compare them but they're different services.

MS = BC - If you own the game and it's publisher approved you can play it. If you don't own it you can buy it and play it.

Sony = PSnow - Streaming service for older games.  If you own a game or don't own you can either pay to play it or not pay to play it either by individual rental or subscription.   

Neither is forced as you will most likely hear in this thread.  You are not forced to rent a game you own or don't own on PSnow and you are not forced to buy a game you don't own on MS BC.  It's a silly argument.  They're just different options (something people always argue they want on consoles, which a lot of times seems to correspond to the console they own) available for playing older games.

Remasters: they both do it about the same. off the top of my head:

Ms- Halo 1, 2, 3, 4, ODST, GOW 1

Sony- TLOU, GOW3, UC 1, 2, 3, Heavy Rain, Beyond Two Souls. 

I might have missed a couple but the point is it's not as skewed as people make it either way and it's definitely a minuscule percentage of both overall catalogs. 



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AEGRO said:

First of all, you are lying about Sony. They didnt "had it" last year.

Actually, Xbox One has just Quantum Break for this year. If you want to count a shitty XBL game as Cobalt or Ori, a game from last year, or even a Killer Instinct DLC, i would say that you are just trying hard to include every List Filler to hide the fact that the first half of this year has been disastrous. 

Do i have to remind you that Quantum Break was underwhelmingly received by the press and also flopped sales wise?

BC is cool, but to say that someone is fine because they can battle the droughts with Xbox 360 games is laughable at best.

And finally, so what if E3 is weeks away?

Do you think that they are going to announce new games AND release them this year? 

This years Line-Up is already planned, and no matter what they reveal at E3, the list wont change.

For starters, don't tell me I am "lying". You're more than welcome to disagree with my opinion, but I don't give a shit enough to lie about it. Also, try toning down your salt levels a bit. I'm getting dehydrated just by reading your retort.

MS has more than Quantum Break this year. I listed other things. I don't care for your list wars BS. Others have replied to me and included a yearly sports update and a remaster in their list of things Sony brought by this time in 2015. Where is your reply to them about those "not counting"? And season three of Killer Instinct is more than just "a DLC" :)

You can remind me of your opinions about QB's reception and sales all you want, it's just more irrelevant salt sprinkled in.

Lastly, I never said anything about games being announced at E3 2016 and releasing in 2016. Try maybe reading the OP. He's concerned MS is throwing in the towel. He'll get his answer at E3, which is only a few weeks away. Hope that helps.



walsufnir said:
Risthel said:

Where did I say you can't mention upcoming games?

Mention them if it makes you feel better, it doesn't change the drought up until now and the fact that new games are being cancelled and delayed, which is the point of the thread.

Where did I say that you said that mentioning upcoming games isn't allowed?

The whole point is that apparently it wasn't clear what your thread was about. This is based on the OP which is at least not clear. So what you are trying to say is that MS' first party output is lacking?

Yeah, you are the first person in this world that thinks that way /s.

There were so many threads about it, it's only not apparent due to the ridiculous search function on this forum.

More interesting in the last weeks and months were discussions about the impact and importance of exclusives in nowadays gaming but this isn't adressed at all in this thread.

What these threads are mostly for is that people again are free to post their opinion about MS. But this is what forums are for: posting your own opinion.

 

I thought his point was perfectly clear.  



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