Azzanation said:
Swordmasterman said:
I Was refering to the Sucess of Halo Outside of Gaming 11.5 Millions of combined numbers of Art Book, Novels, Comic Books, and others.
Final Fantasy sold 4+ Millions of DVD with just 1 Movie and even so isn't enought to make it well known outside of Gaming, and Final Fantasy wasn't a Mult-million Seller until the early 90s because Final Fantasy 1, 2, 3, were only avaliable on Japan, The Only main-titles avaliable for PC was FF 7, and 8, it was when Internet was niche, Final Fantasy never was in 2 consoles at the same time (in the same generation) until Final Fantasy XIII.
Star Wars is a Movie Franchise well known for people who don't even see movies, this is much more popular than Halo, only a very few Franchises are able to claim that, like Pokemon, Sonic, Mario, Megaman, Street Fighter.
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FF7 was sold as a psyical game for PCs, the net had nothihng to do with it.. Not sure why you brought that up.
Nothing is as popular then Star Wars, However Halo is alot more popular then Street Fighter, Megaman, Sonic and the only 2 exceptions in your list is Mario and Pokemon. I dont think you get it do you, Halo brings in more money then most of your list of games your claiming are bigger. If you dont think Halo is a big franchise because you dont play them, doesnt mean its not big. Not everything is based off your taste and opinion. Halo hosts one of the bigger E-Sports, it sells on anything, and it also rakes in millions. Tell me how much SF5, Megaman and Sonic rake in and lets compare it to the game you dont think is very big at all. I bet Halo 5 earned more money then those 3 games combined.
Your profile stats your only 16, that explains alot in this debate. Iv been playing WoW alone for 11 years. Trust me iv been gaming alot longer then you have, and to let you know, iv been gaming before you were even born. Its a sad life i have however i am no longer going to continue this debate with you since your not even researching your claims. I dont debate without facts. So unless you want to prove to me that Halo isnt a big franchise, and that SF5, Megaman and Sonic are, ill continue.
I will bet you Halo 5 has made more money then all 3 mention and no, Street Fighter, Megaman and Sonic are no where near as popular as Star Wars. Halo is in a different league compared to those games. Its more in the league of Mario.
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I'm refering to Fame out-side of Gaming the franchise does not need to be bigger than the other to do that, the only tittle that would be comparable to Star Wars if GTA, it is correct to say that GTA is for gaming what Star Wars is for the movies, And last time i checked the Sonic Franchise had 150+ Millions of units sold out-selling all the other franchises i mentioned combined, Megaman, Street Fighter, Halo, (and if it had a little more would have out-sold Uncharted), the franchise is of the early 90s.
We are talking about Proportions of Fame, the Statement Greenberg made is analogy so if he compared Halo with Star Wars and said "For Gaming" the franchise must be atleast in Equal Proportions, Star Wars is a franchise everyone out-side of movies will know, and Mario, Sonic, Pokemon, Donkey Kong (I believe that is well known out-side of gaming) Pacman.
Maybe Halo is more popular on USA because majority of the users are Americans but a franchise cannot be famous in just 1 country to be considered "Star Wars of gaming", otherwise Dragon Quest would be more famous than Halo, the franchise sold 50+ Millions of Manga, had a Successful Anime, against Halo who sold probably over 8 Millions of Novels.
Regarding Box Office i think that the Early Star Wars crossed 800-1 Billion of US$ in the 70-80s the last one crossed 2 Billions of US$, is one of the top 3-4 best selling movies of all times, Even in the Home-console Market Halo is still behind Sonic, Gran Turismo, Mario, Zelda. And in the Gaming Industrie the only exclusive to top all the other games (even Multiplataform) in Revenue is Pokemon, the franchise already made over 50-52 Billions of US$ in Revenue Worldwide not even GTA Franchise made so much Revenue.
The Japanese Animation Industrie is over a little more than 2 Billion of US$ per year, so Pokemon did the most of his Revenue without the Anime.
I'm just saying that is Silly to compare Halo with Star Wars, because Star Wars is in the top 3 biggest movie franchises of all times, even so it seems that you fail to understand my posts, i said that "Halo is a modest Success" refering to Novel's sales and outside gaming related products it sold over 11 Millions of combined units of Art Book, Strategy Book, HQ, Novels. and you replied saying that Halo is a big franchise that the game paid itself and that you doubt other games would make 500 Millions of Revenue First week so Easily.
Microsoft changed the metric to tell Halo's achievement, Halo 2 had 130-140 Millions of Revenue first week (just Software), Halo 3 over 180 Millions First Week (just Software) isn't strange for Halo 5 to gross 500 Millions of US$ First Week (including Hardware) ?, so it sold 2.5x more than Halo 3 in the First Week ?.