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Roronaa_chan said:
Ffs does it really matter whether Forza is heavily bundled or not? It doesn't sell much either way. If it didn't chart in the only country it sells in then they might as well not manufacture any copies as there'd be no shops to ship them to

Not making it in the charts doesn't mean it's not selling and I'm pretty sure it's still selling everywhere.



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darkenergy said:
Aura7541 said:

I hope you're not basing that off of VGC numbers... If not, I expect you to have your sources ready for the Halo 5, Spatoon, and digital rate numbers.

I looked it up and I found this article and another one on the same site. And then, looking at Amazon, it seems that the LE bundle is still widely available at £269.00. Comparing that pricetag to those on other SKUs, it seems to be a good deal. Like I mentioned already, it would behoove you to verify things first before making such declarative statements.

For your first reply Microsoft sometimes have their digital games on sale and sometimes Halo 5 is on it as well so I wouldn't be surprise if alot of people who got it. 

I never said that they stopped the limited edition I know that there are plenty out there. 

That is not sufficient enough if all you're relying on is conjecture. I want to know if you have the numbers and sources to back your claim.

In response to your second reply, that's a strawman fallacy. I didn't accuse you for saying MS stopped shipping the LE bundle. I was just pointing out that the bundle is still widely available for an SKU that is supposed to be limited and it is priced rather well. That can definitely explain why Forza 6 charts consistantly.



Azzanation said:
Swordmasterman said:

Xbox One's best selling bundle was Gears of War 4, you don't understand that those numbers are ? they are Shipped numbers from Launch so the consumers don't purchased it, otherwise they would need 1.5+ Millions of software sales + 750-800 Thousands of Bundles sold First week, Xbox One only sold 330 Thousands on USA that month and USA count for more than Half of Xbox One's Hardware.

 

Shipped means they just sent to the stores Halo in Software sales don't made more than 140 Millions First Week which Final Fantasy XV can break on Japan only if sell like a Regular Final Fantasy game.

Again we were comparing Halo and Final Fantasy because you said that Halo had other midias, but those other midias are just Advertisement they were not a success on other midias like Pokemon, Yu Gi Oh.

Final Fantasy Advent Children's Movie was released on DVD and UMD it sold 4+ Millions of units Worldwide before the release of the Final Version, in Japan nearly the majority of the Initial sales was of the Legendary Edition, the Blu-ray version also wasn't cheap in Japan.

From the 4 Millions 2+ Millions sold outside of Japan.

 

Neither Halo or Uncharted are famous outside of gaming.

Dude shipped or not doesn’t mean anything, it still is money in the makers pocket and it will continue to make money as its life nears an end.

Halo is big outside of gaming, you should start reading up more about it. It has some of the best-selling novels in book stores, many none gamers will know what Halo is because Halo is more than just a game. Seems like you refuse to accept this. Final Fantasy is also a big IP and one of the biggest JRPG games going around just like Halo is for the FPS market. I like FF and i have all of them on Steam because it’s one of the biggest brands going around just like I own every Halo game (Including Spartan Strikes PC Exclusive) because it’s one of the best FPS going around. There both house hold names but to say FF is bigger than Halo is debatable. FF only advantage is that it’s multiplatform where Halo isn’t.

Final Fantasy franchise wasn't Multiplataform until 2009.

And i gave numbers of the DVD Sales, Final Fantasy also isn't known outside of Gaming even with this success of sales. And i doubt that Halo's Novel sold Millions of units.



Azzanation said:
Swordmasterman said:

With shipped Numbers ?, almost every big game because the Bundle alone usually cost 5-7 Units of the game. and as i said Halo 1 and 2 were on PC, the 110 Millions of Units sold for Final Fantasy was on 2014 where the only main tittle avaliable on PC was FFXIII.

65 Millions to 110 Millions is a big difference.

And back with the 500 Millions in Revenue this means  over 8.5 Millions of units sold full price at retail even if the game had a lot of legendary edition it would not be less than 8 Millions units sold first week you need to boost it with Hardware, Compare Software with Software Halo 5 sold 2+ Millions at Retail First Week lets say 5% is of Legendary Edition this is over 130+ Millions of US$ First week (with the Microtransactions and other related items it  could have been 140+ Millions), GTA V Sold more than a dozen of Millions day 1 and even so it did over 1 Billion in Revenue in the first week.

It is unfair to  use Bundle's revenue together with the Hardware's revenue just to make the numbers go up.

 

I am not sure where you’re trying to go with this. Halo 5 is still regarded as a box office success, it brought in half a billion dollars in its first week regardless if it bundled or not because in Halo 5's case, it was the most expensive bundle on the market which means that gamers brought that bundle because they wanted Halo 5. Unlike the UC Collection for PS4 which was the cheapest bundle on the market, which means that gamers would have flocked to it even if they didn’t want Uncharted because it’s the cheapest option. Halo + Hardware + Digital + Merchandise clearly shows that Halo 5 is an amazing success even if you disagree. Numbers don’t lie and in this case, $500m isn’t something many games can do. Will see if FF15 makes that much in its first week.

Ever way, if it’s got Halo 5’s name on it, it should be counted because it’s all part of it.

And just FYI, Halo 5 is most likely sitting on 4m sales (Not including Digital) and it has already made its money back. The back will probably die on 6m sales by the time Halo 6 releases. Doesn’t sound like a bad number to me, after all Uncharted games sell 6m per entry.

 

 


 

 

I  got some numbers of Halo's sales but this numbers are of Mixed sales of Novel, Comic Book, Art Book, and Strategy Book, it is over 11.5 Millions.

And over 1 Million of DVD With Halo's SoundTracks were sold, Not Blockbuster in the Comics/Novel market but is a modest success.



darkenergy said:
Aura7541 said:

I hope you're not basing that off of VGC numbers... If not, I expect you to have your sources ready for the Halo 5, Spatoon, and digital rate numbers.

I looked it up and I found this article and another one on the same site. And then, looking at Amazon, it seems that the LE bundle is still widely available at £269.00. Comparing that pricetag to those on other SKUs, it seems to be a good deal. Like I mentioned already, it would behoove you to verify things first before making such declarative statements.

For your first reply Microsoft sometimes have their digital games on sale and sometimes Halo 5 is on it as well so I wouldn't be surprise if alot of people who got it. 

I never said that they stopped the limited edition I know that there are plenty out there. 

Lol that's not a source 



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Swordmasterman said:
Azzanation said:

Dude shipped or not doesn’t mean anything, it still is money in the makers pocket and it will continue to make money as its life nears an end.

Halo is big outside of gaming, you should start reading up more about it. It has some of the best-selling novels in book stores, many none gamers will know what Halo is because Halo is more than just a game. Seems like you refuse to accept this. Final Fantasy is also a big IP and one of the biggest JRPG games going around just like Halo is for the FPS market. I like FF and i have all of them on Steam because it’s one of the biggest brands going around just like I own every Halo game (Including Spartan Strikes PC Exclusive) because it’s one of the best FPS going around. There both house hold names but to say FF is bigger than Halo is debatable. FF only advantage is that it’s multiplatform where Halo isn’t.

Final Fantasy franchise wasn't Multiplataform until 2009.

And i gave numbers of the DVD Sales, Final Fantasy also isn't known outside of Gaming even with this success of sales. And i doubt that Halo's Novel sold Millions of units.

 

The difference is your comparing a franchise which only started to sell millions from 2000 compared to a franchise which was selling millions back in the late 80s early 90s. I am not taking away from the success of Final Fantasy, it’s a well-placed franchise but let’s not forget FF has been available to many though out the years. FF7 was available on PC and just about every FF game for the 7th gen was multiplatform.

As for your last post. Halo 5 isnt just a modest success, Halo 5 has done wonders, just because the game didnt sell aswell as there previous game doesnt mean the franchise is dieing or on the decline. Game sales is only part of the Halo Universe. Star Wars doesnt have to sell many DvDs to make money, it earns its money off heaps of other things, much like Halo. I dont need to defend Halo because money talks and thats exactly what Halo is doing, $500m in its first week is something not many games can do (Hence i said not many games). As for FF being known outside of gaming i have no clue, i am sure if you ask anybody that are not into games what FF or Halo is they will say most likely say "Isnt that a game" and i am pretty sure FF isnt as big as Halo when it comes to merchandise and books eand life outside of gaming etc.



Azzanation said:
Swordmasterman said:

Final Fantasy franchise wasn't Multiplataform until 2009.

And i gave numbers of the DVD Sales, Final Fantasy also isn't known outside of Gaming even with this success of sales. And i doubt that Halo's Novel sold Millions of units.

 

The difference is your comparing a franchise which only started to sell millions from 2000 compared to a franchise which was selling millions back in the late 80s early 90s. I am not taking away from the success of Final Fantasy, it’s a well-placed franchise but let’s not forget FF has been available to many though out the years. FF7 was available on PC and just about every FF game for the 7th gen was multiplatform.

As for your last post. Halo 5 isnt just a modest success, Halo 5 has done wonders, just because the game didnt sell aswell as there previous game doesnt mean the franchise is dieing or on the decline. Game sales is only part of the Halo Universe. Star Wars doesnt have to sell many DvDs to make money, it earns its money off heaps of other things, much like Halo. I dont need to defend Halo because money talks and thats exactly what Halo is doing, $500m in its first week is something not many games can do (Hence i said not many games). As for FF being known outside of gaming i have no clue, i am sure if you ask anybody that are not into games what FF or Halo is they will say most likely say "Isnt that a game" and i am pretty sure FF isnt as big as Halo when it comes to merchandise and books eand life outside of gaming etc.

I Was refering to the Sucess of Halo Outside of Gaming 11.5 Millions of combined numbers of Art Book, Novels, Comic Books, and others.

Final Fantasy sold 4+ Millions of DVD with just 1 Movie and even so isn't enought to make it well known outside of Gaming, and Final Fantasy wasn't a Mult-million Seller until the early 90s because Final Fantasy 1, 2, 3, were only avaliable on Japan, The Only main-titles avaliable for PC was FF 7, and 8,  it was when Internet was niche, Final Fantasy never was in 2 consoles at the same time (in the same generation) until Final Fantasy XIII.

Star Wars is a Movie Franchise well known  for people who don't even see movies, this is much more popular than Halo, only a  very few Franchises  are able to claim that, like Pokemon, Sonic, Mario, Megaman, Street Fighter.



Azzanation said:

As for your last post. Halo 5 isnt just a modest success, Halo 5 has done wonders, just because the game didnt sell aswell as there previous game doesnt mean the franchise is dieing or on the decline.

Hmmm.... What does it mean then? That the franchise is on the rise?

 

If Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare did 10 million on all platforms combined, would you call that a success and say the game did wonders? Because I doubt Activision would...



Swordmasterman said:
Azzanation said:
 

The difference is your comparing a franchise which only started to sell millions from 2000 compared to a franchise which was selling millions back in the late 80s early 90s. I am not taking away from the success of Final Fantasy, it’s a well-placed franchise but let’s not forget FF has been available to many though out the years. FF7 was available on PC and just about every FF game for the 7th gen was multiplatform.

As for your last post. Halo 5 isnt just a modest success, Halo 5 has done wonders, just because the game didnt sell aswell as there previous game doesnt mean the franchise is dieing or on the decline. Game sales is only part of the Halo Universe. Star Wars doesnt have to sell many DvDs to make money, it earns its money off heaps of other things, much like Halo. I dont need to defend Halo because money talks and thats exactly what Halo is doing, $500m in its first week is something not many games can do (Hence i said not many games). As for FF being known outside of gaming i have no clue, i am sure if you ask anybody that are not into games what FF or Halo is they will say most likely say "Isnt that a game" and i am pretty sure FF isnt as big as Halo when it comes to merchandise and books eand life outside of gaming etc.

I Was refering to the Sucess of Halo Outside of Gaming 11.5 Millions of combined numbers of Art Book, Novels, Comic Books, and others.

Final Fantasy sold 4+ Millions of DVD with just 1 Movie and even so isn't enought to make it well known outside of Gaming, and Final Fantasy wasn't a Mult-million Seller until the early 90s because Final Fantasy 1, 2, 3, were only avaliable on Japan, The Only main-titles avaliable for PC was FF 7, and 8,  it was when Internet was niche, Final Fantasy never was in 2 consoles at the same time (in the same generation) until Final Fantasy XIII.

Star Wars is a Movie Franchise well known  for people who don't even see movies, this is much more popular than Halo, only a  very few Franchises  are able to claim that, like Pokemon, Sonic, Mario, Megaman, Street Fighter.

FF7 was sold as a psyical game for PCs, the net had nothihng to do with it.. Not sure why you brought that up.

Nothing is as popular then Star Wars, However Halo is alot more popular then Street Fighter, Megaman, Sonic and the only 2 exceptions in your list is Mario and Pokemon. I dont think you get it do you, Halo brings in more money then most of your list of games your claiming are bigger. If you dont think Halo is a big franchise because you dont play them, doesnt mean its not big. Not everything is based off your taste and opinion. Halo hosts one of the bigger E-Sports, it sells on anything, and it also rakes in millions. Tell me how much SF5, Megaman and Sonic rake in and lets compare it to the game you dont think is very big at all. I bet Halo 5 earned more money then those 3 games combined.

Your profile stats your only 16, that explains alot in this debate. Iv been playing WoW alone for 11 years. Trust me iv been gaming alot longer then you have, and to let you know, iv been gaming before you were even born. Its a sad life i have however i am no longer going to continue this debate with you since your not even researching your claims. I dont debate without facts. So unless you want to prove to me that Halo isnt a big franchise, and that SF5, Megaman and Sonic are, ill continue.

I will bet you Halo 5 has made more money then all 3 mention and no, Street Fighter, Megaman and Sonic are no where near as popular as Star Wars. Halo is in a different league compared to those games. Its more in the league of Mario.



Teeqoz said:
Azzanation said:

As for your last post. Halo 5 isnt just a modest success, Halo 5 has done wonders, just because the game didnt sell aswell as there previous game doesnt mean the franchise is dieing or on the decline.

Hmmm.... What does it mean then? That the franchise is on the rise?

 

If Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare did 10 million on all platforms combined, would you call that a success and say the game did wonders? Because I doubt Activision would...

4m is not a flop and the game will end up selling 6 to 7m lifetime. Its all about the profits not the sale numbers. Halo 5 made $500m in its first week, twice that of Halo 4 so you do the maths. Anything with Halo 5 on it has made gold. You can sell a game for $1 and sell 10m copies or you could sell a game for $60 and sell 5m copies, whats more successful? Not the game being sold for $1. Sales dont matter, aslong as the profit growth is improving and Halo 5 is far from an exception.

So to anwser your question, Yes Halo is on the rise because Halo 5 made half a billion in its first week.