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Normchacho on 15 May 2016
KLAMarine said:
Normchacho said:

I would be way more concerned if a reviewer was unable to find a single fault in a game they were playing. From what I can tell, a game gets a 10 from most reviewers when they can't find any faults that they find meaningful.

I don't get why some have an issue with this particular review. Have you never read a 10/10 review before?

I'm not sure. Maybe years ago?

I ask because any good review, perfect score or not, is going to have something negative to say. Beating up on a review or it's writter over having negative things to say in a 10/10 review is counter intuitive. You want the reviewer to give as much relevant information as possible.



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KLXVER on 15 May 2016
Normchacho said:
KLAMarine said:

I'm not sure. Maybe years ago?

I ask because any good review, perfect score or not, is going to have something negative to say. Beating up on a review or it's writter over having negative things to say in a 10/10 review is counter intuitive. You want the reviewer to give as much relevant information as possible.

So where exactly does this reviewer say something negative about the game?



KLAMarine on 15 May 2016
Zekkyou said:
KLAMarine said:

The fact that the review acknowledges the game is not perfect and yet it gets perfect 10/10 scores across the board.

A 10 doesn't have to mean something is perfect. In-fact, unless the numbers on your scale are intended more as labels than to represent a linear/curved numerical scale (which is a perfectly valid system, but clearly not the one Aldro is using), i think it's pretty illogical to define a 10 that way. There is likely no such thing as a perfect game, thus 10 would become undefinable. Without being able to define both ends of your scale, everything in-between becomes meaningless. You'd basically be saying "I give this game [x] out of perfect", or "this game is [x]% perfect". It doesn't make much sense when you have no idea what perfect means. You might as well give something 6 out of apple, or 9 out of paper bag.

I wouldn't personally give UC4 a 10 (As of chapter 15 i'd give it a 9.0, but if it maintains its current quality through to the end, and wraps up the story nicely, i could see myself giving it a 9.5), but a 10 is what Aldro thinks it deserves, then that's what Aldro should give it.

If Aldro had said "yes, this game is perfect. It has no flaws whatsoever", I would have had zero issue with 10/10s everywhere. It's Aldro's opinion. I'm just scratching my head that Aldro acknowledges the game is not perfect but saw no reason to deduct any points.



KLAMarine on 15 May 2016
Normchacho said:
KLAMarine said:

I'm not sure. Maybe years ago?

I ask because any good review, perfect score or not, is going to have something negative to say. Beating up on a review or it's writter over having negative things to say in a 10/10 review is counter intuitive. You want the reviewer to give as much relevant information as possible.

Beating up? Am I beating up on the review? If I'm being rude, please let me know and I'll apologize.



KLXVER on 15 May 2016
KLAMarine said:
Zekkyou said:

A 10 doesn't have to mean something is perfect. In-fact, unless the numbers on your scale are intended more as labels than to represent a linear/curved numerical scale (which is a perfectly valid system, but clearly not the one Aldro is using), i think it's pretty illogical to define a 10 that way. There is likely no such thing as a perfect game, thus 10 would become undefinable. Without being able to define both ends of your scale, everything in-between becomes meaningless. You'd basically be saying "I give this game [x] out of perfect", or "this game is [x]% perfect". It doesn't make much sense when you have no idea what perfect means. You might as well give something 6 out of apple, or 9 out of paper bag.

I wouldn't personally give UC4 a 10 (As of chapter 15 i'd give it a 9.0, but if it maintains its current quality through to the end, and wraps up the story nicely, i could see myself giving it a 9.5), but a 10 is what Aldro thinks it deserves, then that's what Aldro should give it.

If Aldro had said "yes, this game is perfect. It has no flaws whatsoever", I would have had zero issue with 10/10s everywhere. It's Aldro's opinion. I'm just scratching my head that Aldro acknowledges the game is not perfect but saw no reason to deduct any points.

Well saying "The game is not perfect and has some flaws", but not writing about a single one of them, they must be incredibly small.



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Normchacho on 15 May 2016
KLXVER said:
Normchacho said:

I ask because any good review, perfect score or not, is going to have something negative to say. Beating up on a review or it's writter over having negative things to say in a 10/10 review is counter intuitive. You want the reviewer to give as much relevant information as possible.

So where exactly does this reviewer say something negative about the game?

What? Read the review.

"My only real minor nitpick is that I feel that the game has too much platforming. It makes me consider the possibility that the game might have actually been better if it had an hour less of platforming. It can simply get too much at times. "

"The first thing I did was tweak the sound by slightly lowering everything other than the music simply because it felt toned down when compared to the effects"

"I do not enjoy playing Uncharted as a cover shooter. I feel that on harder difficulties, this is almost a must."

Minor issues (hence the 10/10), but issues.



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KLAMarine on 15 May 2016
KLXVER said:
KLAMarine said:

If Aldro had said "yes, this game is perfect. It has no flaws whatsoever", I would have had zero issue with 10/10s everywhere. It's Aldro's opinion. I'm just scratching my head that Aldro acknowledges the game is not perfect but saw no reason to deduct any points.

Well saying "The game is not perfect and has some flaws", but not writing about a single one of them, they must be incredibly small.

Yeah but an incredibly small flaw to Aldro might be a huge flaw to someone else.



KLXVER on 15 May 2016
Normchacho said:
KLXVER said:

So where exactly does this reviewer say something negative about the game?

What? Read the review.

"My only real minor nitpick is that I feel that the game has too much platforming. It makes me consider the possibility that the game might have actually been better if it had an hour less of platforming. It can simply get too much at times. "

"The first thing I did was tweak the sound by slightly lowering everything other than the music simply because it felt toned down when compared to the effects"

"I do not enjoy playing Uncharted as a cover shooter. I feel that on harder difficulties, this is almost a must."

Minor issues (hence the 10/10), but issues.

Fair enough on the first one at least.



Normchacho on 15 May 2016
KLAMarine said:
Normchacho said:

I ask because any good review, perfect score or not, is going to have something negative to say. Beating up on a review or it's writter over having negative things to say in a 10/10 review is counter intuitive. You want the reviewer to give as much relevant information as possible.

Beating up? Am I beating up on the review? If I'm being rude, please let me know and I'll apologize.

I didn't mean you specifically. I was talking in a general sense that criticising a review with a perfect score for saying anything bad about the game is asking for worse (less well written) reviews.

Though, you did imply that he gave it a perfect score because of bias, and not because that's what he actually thought the game deserved.



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Normchacho on 15 May 2016
KLAMarine said:
KLXVER said:

Well saying "The game is not perfect and has some flaws", but not writing about a single one of them, they must be incredibly small.

Yeah but an incredibly small flaw to Aldro might be a huge flaw to someone else.

Which is why it's imporant for every review, no matter the score, to talk about both the ups and downs of a game. Which Aldro did. I'll refer you to my last post to KLXVER.



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