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Will Nintendo go with a mobile based system for console games?

Yes, the market is moving... 36 26.09%
 
No, standard game console... 102 73.91%
 
Total:138

if one remains in the idea of a hybrid machine, there exists another possibility…
NX HH could be equipped with one will tegra X1 coupled to a system of streaming like the gamepad which is not limited to WiFi direct, but as I in already emitted board the assumption could diffuse a H265 video stream via Internet or the 4G…
HC could be a smartphone to optimize games way comforts, a smartphone at low cost (100 euros max) solid and very adapted to the young public that Nintendo to lost with its portables… to combine the market of the games smartphones + exclusive games type 3DS on this smartphone Nintendo …
And obviously to conceive a special PAD which could accommodate this smartphone in order to have true a portable console. It suffices then for Nintendo to creates a link between the fixed part and the smartphone passing through any networks (Internet, 4G), to integrate a chip of decompression h265 in the smartphone… What would make it possible to play everywhere in streaming with the games of HH equipped with a TEGRA X1 on Smartphone NX from the moment or one is connected to a sufficient flow…
In addition, if connection is insufficient to play in streaming, Nintendo could use the streaming for interfaced HH on the screen of the smartphone, that would make it possible to off-set calculations on the fixed part equipped with Tegra X1. The framerate, the resolution of the video stream have little importance for surfing on the Net or to surf in the menu… on the other hand the smartphone with 100€ will obtain (by procuration) the computing power of Tegra X1 (can be possible in 4G)…

 

 

So, NX could be HH with Tegra X1 + low cost smartphone optimised like HC with a advanced streaming système with HH for playing HH games every where + spécial pad for the smartphone to have good controls for HH and HC games...



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The difference between Nintendo and Activision is that Activision is a software company so putting their software on every device possible is their business. Nintendo is firstly a console manufacturer.

Technically yes, Nintendo, and even Sony and MS, can do this. But that's just like saying they're becoming 3rd party like Sega. Thus, will end up making their own consoles irrelevant and possibly lose the opportunity to make more money.



Azuren said:

My phone connects so readily to my Dualshock 4 that sometimes it feels like it was made for my phone, so let me say this: There is no future with Phones using a separate controller. Seriously, it just doesn't work out. Optimal sitting conditions are required for it to be halfway worth it. My Xperia z3v can remote play my PS4, so I've got a bunch of experience trying to make console games work on mobile... And they really just don't. You would need a dedicated device (like the all-in-one Nvidia Shield Portable, which I also own) or an integrated gamepad (like the Xperia Play, which I own as well) to make it work, and even then the amount of available content would make such purchases meaningless.

So no. They really don't. They're better off sticking with handheld gaming devices, or merging with Sony (where they would do handhelds and Sony would do home consoles, with each having access to the other's IPs).

The Moga controllers that hold your phone are very comfortable to use. I have the bigger version of this one and it has a boost battery in the controller to charge your phone while you play and also balances it nicely.



   

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We've already heard from Nintendo themselves that it is a home console, so this speculation about it being strictly mobile is getting a little old.



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spemanig said:
Nem said:

Phones aren't nor ever will be the future of gaming.

No controller? no big screen? No gaming.

Big screen and controller? It's not a mobile device.

Streams to TV? Lag in responsiveness.

If it has a controller it won't sell as well as a regular phone.

It's a physical impossibility.

3DS not gaming confirmed.

Mobile is gaming isn't the future. It's now. That's not up for debate. His version of what mobile gaming will be, one that uses controller add ons, is what's off.

Sigh... whatever. But i wasnt talking about portable gaming i was talking about console gaming... and you knew that. But hell if i care.



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SonytendoAmiibo said:
Azuren said:

My phone connects so readily to my Dualshock 4 that sometimes it feels like it was made for my phone, so let me say this: There is no future with Phones using a separate controller. Seriously, it just doesn't work out. Optimal sitting conditions are required for it to be halfway worth it. My Xperia z3v can remote play my PS4, so I've got a bunch of experience trying to make console games work on mobile... And they really just don't. You would need a dedicated device (like the all-in-one Nvidia Shield Portable, which I also own) or an integrated gamepad (like the Xperia Play, which I own as well) to make it work, and even then the amount of available content would make such purchases meaningless.

So no. They really don't. They're better off sticking with handheld gaming devices, or merging with Sony (where they would do handhelds and Sony would do home consoles, with each having access to the other's IPs).

The Moga controllers that hold your phone are very comfortable to use. I have the bigger version of this one and it has a boost battery in the controller to charge your phone while you play and also balances it nicely.

I own a Moga, a Moga Pro, and the Nyko attachment for the Dualshock 4; none of them are stable enough handle anything more than light casual gaming. Gaming as we know it on consoles just won't happen on mobile; there's too many hurdles, and as has been mentioned by others it would eat up batteries and burn out phones.



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Nem said:

Phones aren't nor ever will be the future of gaming.

No controller? no big screen? No gaming.

Big screen and controller? It's not a mobile device.

Streams to TV? Lag in responsiveness.

If it has a controller it won't sell as well as a regular phone.

It's a physical impossibility.

 

malistix1985 said:
Many problems with full ARM/Phone/Tablet gaming, most people have quite cheap phones, so making a highly graphical one will only reach a small audience, also there are 3 different OS on phones, although obviously Android is the biggest.

There is a second big thing to consider tough, the people that want Home Consoles, Gaming PC's and so on are just a different audience, and they are quite passionate. They are willing to spent MUCH more money on gaming.

Many people on smartphones buy micro transactions and so on but they would (most) not spent 60 euro and another 30 for a season pass, end of the line, a game like Fallout4, Star wars battlefront, Call of Duty, is just impossible on current handheld devices.

At the end what I am trying to say, there is just more then 1 kind of gamer, whichever Nintendo wants to reach is up to them, there will for the foreseeable future be a demand for traditional Home Consoles and Steam but if Nintendo wants to step out, they could do it. The worst thing they could do is make something that stays in the middle and doesn't appeal to either group, which is something the NX sounds like in SOME rumours.

 

Aeolus451 said:
Might want to wait till the eggs hatch before you start counting chickens. Is Uncharted 4 or Dark Souls 3 on phones? No. Phones will never able to play current gen AAA games because the cost of the phones would get too high unless the game is really weak compared to the other games. I'm not saying that games won't sell on mobile but people need to keep their expectations grounded to reality.

 

Exactly. Some years ago I thought that powerful tablets/phones would run AAA console games, but today we have devices like iPad Air 2/iPad Pro and the big AAA games didn't come out. Mobile gaming is big but it's got its own audience and its own sort of games.

Nintendo using ARM isn't news. 3DS is ARM.

If Nintendo decides to go mobile-only, that'd mean that Nintendo just left the traditional gaming industry.



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Nem said:

Sigh... whatever. But i wasnt talking about portable gaming i was talking about console gaming... and you knew that. But hell if i care.

You can't just ignore portable gaming like it's not gaming.



spemanig said:
Nem said:

Sigh... whatever. But i wasnt talking about portable gaming i was talking about console gaming... and you knew that. But hell if i care.

You can't just ignore portable gaming like it's not gaming.

Read the thread title.