LivingMetal said:
JWeinCom said:
Because comic book movies were generally terrible before recent times.
The first FF movie was a stringshoe budget thing made to keep the license for the FF.
The second one came in the post Spider-man boom where companies were trying to capitalize on what they had without realizing why X-men and Spider-man were successful. We're talking about the time of Daredevil, Catwoman, Hulk Dogs, and so on.
And the third one had the Dark Knight envy that Superman Returns and Amazing Spider-man dealt with. Trying to make a dark franchise out of a franchise that isn't dark.
If you think the problem is with the source material... then you're wrong. Because the movies only shares a passing resemblance to the actual comics. When Galactus is a cloud, Dr. Doom is a generic 90's businessman, and Mr. Fantastic is on the run from the military, you're not really making a Fantastic Four movie.
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I need to express that Galatus was NEVER a cloud. The only reason he was shown as if he were a cloud at the end of the Rise of the Silver Surfer was because Tim Story wanted the next director to have the creative freedom to render a full fledged tangible Galactus anyway he deemed. Behind the scenes renditions supported that Story originally wanted to show Galactus from head to toe as seen in the comics, but opted to have the chracter shrouded behind a cloud for the next director. Too bad most viewers reacted very narrowly and negatively at what they THOUGHT was Galactus, thus hurting the chance of a third movie that would have shown Galactus as they had hoped.
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Too bad. They fucked up that moment. What were people gonna think? Oh, I see a cloud. I totally know there's a planet size man inside? You're gonna tell me the cloud is Galatus' cloaking device? What's the clouds pupose? If you wanted to actually do that right. Without pissing off the fans. Show an arm, make it purple. And that's it. Little things can make fans easily happy. I gave Mark Rulafo's Hulk a chance. Just because Marvel gave Hulk purple pants. Same shit problem these movies have with Doom. Make the armor a damn suit. Not some fucking organic power. Not some whiny nerd guy.
The next director can't even do what they want. Or it's no Galatus anymore. Why does a billion dollar company not think of this. And they think CLOUD. Fuck, voice over only, or shadow would of been better, then what they did. If Marvel can decide on Thanos' look, how many movies before, anyone else can do it. Somethings shouldn't be decided, by the future director. And this is one of them. His look was decided 4 decades ago.
As for this movie. No. All the main people, who worked on this movie, shouldn't get a second chance. They'll just mess it up again. For the same reasons. Fox is the same element in all FF mess ups. That isn't changing. Unless Fox studios gives up. What's the point of adapting a comic book. And not follow the core concepts. Make up your own stuff. If you can't do that. And Fox, go away. 3 movies, overall fuck ups. Intill I see them use the real Doom story. I'm not gonna look at another FF Fox movie again. At this rate. Fox is better off just making a FF movie, based off the 2008 cartoon.
Look at that series, for the proper direction. 26 episodes. And they cramed in 30 years of key comic stories. All while using elements from the first FF movie. And removed the hated changes, from that movie too. Alicia Masters was black, like the movie. Doom uses armor. And had his empire. And just because certain elements were taken from the Ultimate Universe. Doesn't make it right, either. Mech suit Rhino, in Amazing Spider-Man 2 was shit too. You don't cherry pick. You either make a Ultimate universe movie. Or you don't. And I expect the movie to be labled "Ultimate Fantatic Four".
These people always complain about not wanting to repeat themselves. Or come up with original designs. Then why did they make Spider-Man's origin story twice. So these movies can repeat stories up the ass. But the design aspect. No, I GOTTA CHANGE THAT EVERY TIME. Even with the new Spider-Man. He's been reset 3 times. 15 years. And Parker can't get past high school. Longer than 40 minutes.
