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This is saddening. These ... 42 25.15%
 
Refugee's fault for not ... 100 59.88%
 
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Nem said:

Exagerate much? How do you go from Austria to the whole of europe?

Also, before blaming europe perhaps blame the ones that brought wars to the middle-east? How many refugee's is the US taking in? How many is Canada taking in?

This is not ok, but it is a difficult problem to solve.

Exactly.  Europe is dealing with a mess created by the US. When is super6666 going to realise this 



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Zkuq said:
Threalhusanrolla said:

As far as OP, they dont want to assimilate or integrate.  Their culture is not compatitable with western democracy.   

So 2nd and 3rd gen muslims blowing up Paris and Brussels is not proof for you that long term they just dont assimilate ?  

And no it wont ever solve it selfs out, unless you mean the only way 1500 years of history shows it solves it self out is either they anahilate the original inhabitents and convert the few left alive or they are militaraly pushed back. 

That's not an integration problem. That's a combination of their culture and their unhappiness about the system. That's also partly a result of our culture for not taking care of them well enough as well as not making them feel as accepted as others. Those people don't blow themselves up for fun, and most never blow themselves up. There's a reason for their actions and understanding them is extremely important. They're already here and there's nothing you can do about it, so blocking more from coming isn't going to do much to help. Preventing radicalization is what's remaining.

So becoming a Middle Eastern country then. Because those wackjobs who blow themselves up don't want anything less. There is a way for lessening the stream of immigrants though. It's called making your country less attractive, cut the social system and demand integration instead of asking for it. In the Netherlands there are plenty of immigrants which still refuse to learn our language.

 

On school themes like the Holocaust and Evolution are mocked by those with a different religion. And let's not start about the rise of antisemitism in Europe, due to followers of a religion which name I shall not mention.

 

They might not be happy with us, but if that is the case make sure you remove those persons before they do harm. Not inviting controverse imams and outlawing salifism like what we did with Naziïsm might alsno not be a bad idea, in The Netherlands at least. The only way The Netherlands and the rest of Europe should accept immigrants and refugees is when they want to live in our countries by our rules. Moving to a European country without adapting or changing should be  a luxury we can no longer afford.



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The person leaves his country because it's bad there, commits crime in the new country and it's fault of the ones receiving them? How ridiculous is that?



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I don't see how Europe can be blamed for the rapes made by immigrants. If anything northern European countries should be blamed for not accepting their own part of immigrants (because, you know, it's not like leaving them in Italy/Grece/Turkey will magically solve the problem, especially after the economical issues the first two had in the last few years...). Rapes happen either because the immigrants are criminals in the first place or went crazy due to the poor conditions they live in, but when there's so many of them living in our streets the last thing you can think of is their mental care...



how about you take care of them in Canada?

Anyways it shows why the FPÖ is a good thing unlike other people said



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Well hey if we all went by the media's interpretations no one would go to America for fear of being caught in a mass shooting.

Or Canada for fear of Moose collision death.



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Are you seriously blaming Europe for the crimes that are commited by immigrants? You think immigrants are babies that need to be educated about moral values all over again? Ever thought about the idea that immigrants, especially Muslims, don't share our idea about what is morally accepted and what not and some of them are simply not able to adjust? I live in the Netherlands and I don't think you have any idea how sensitive this topic is here. We all know that the rise in Muslim integration is associated with more crime, but we have this absurd mindset about 'political correctness'. So we do not directly blame the rise in immigration even though we are all aware of it. Meanwhile the PVV, a political party that is strongly against the Muslim immigration, is gaining popularity here. Pretty obvious why. Also, we don't even control immigration ourselves. But for what reason this is decided by Malmström who is pro-immigration.



Luke888 said:

I don't see how Europe can be blamed for the rapes made by immigrants. If anything northern European countries should be blamed for not accepting their own part of immigrants (because, you know, it's not like leaving them in Italy/Grece/Turkey will magically solve the problem, especially after the economical issues the first two had in the last few years...). Rapes happen either because the immigrants are criminals in the first place or went crazy due to the poor conditions they live in, but when there's so many of them living in our streets the last thing you can think of is their mental care...

Are you for real? Northern European countries are accepting more immigrants per capita than nearly any other country in Europe, far more than Italy and Greece.



Mike_L said:
 
No. Country Natives per refugee
1  Sweden 65
2  Norway 103
3   Switzerland 112
4  Austria 138
5  Netherlands 200
6  Canada 224
7  France 246
8  Denmark 310
9  Germany 328
10  Belgium 346
11  Luxembourg 414
12  Russia 449
13  Finland

453

14  United Kingdom 526
15  Italy 641
16  Bulgaria 667
17  Australia 685
18  Ireland 756
19  United States 1210
20  Hungary 2393
21  Poland 2420
22  Iceland 3070
23  Lithuania 3175
24  New Zealand 3284
25  Czech Republic 3337

Wow look at my country(Sweden)... no wonder this country is going down the drain...

 

Right now you are a rasist in Sweden if you demand that we stop taking in more refugees and instead focus on our own problems like school, healthcare, senior citizens, homeless, the police, housing shortage. etc etc etc

 

 

The money we spend on one (1) immigrant each day here we could have feed thousands of people in the middle east  or africa for days..



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JRPGfan said:
You americans have it so good you dont even know it.
Those mexican you all dread? those guys are sweet and well natured and easy to integrate compaired to those from the middle east.

Hey, thanks for the compliment!

 

So, reading about it and your comments, I'll like to know if my notes are correct:

- Integration has gone for from smooth in European countries.

- Inmigration is in first place a consecuence of USA actions when they invaded/started a war/cleaned (don't want to hurt feelings) Irag and Afghanistan.

- USA is not going to accept refugges, but the rest of the world have to, specially Europe, and then we have as consecuence (some link to them) the France and other attacks.

But what USA won or is going to win with this? Another World War?

 

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Naum said:
Mike_L said:
No. Country Natives per refugee
1  Sweden 65
2  Norway 103
3   Switzerland 112
4  Austria 138
5  Netherlands 200
6  Canada 224
7  France 246
8  Denmark 310
9  Germany 328
10  Belgium 346
11  Luxembourg 414
12  Russia 449
13  Finland

453

14  United Kingdom 526
15  Italy 641
16  Bulgaria 667
17  Australia 685
18  Ireland 756
19  United States 1210
20  Hungary 2393
21  Poland 2420
22  Iceland 3070
23  Lithuania 3175
24  New Zealand 3284
25  Czech Republic 3337

Wow look at my country(Sweden)... no wonder this country is going down the drain...

 

Right now you are a rasist in Sweden if you demand that we stop taking in more refugees and instead focus on our own problems like school, healthcare, senior citizens, homeless, the police, housing shortage. etc etc etc

 

 

The money we spend on one (1) immigrant each day here we could have feed thousands of people in the middle east  or africa for days..

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