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Pemalite said:
Nate4Drake said:

I really don't agree with you; powerful PCs are very expensive , and most of casual gamers and harcore/casual gamers don't want or can't spend a lot for powerful GPU, and play the same games at higher res and some slighty prettier textures; also, PCs are big, noisy, and you can't bring them in your living room, and stay confortable on a sofà, playing infront on a big TV; console gamers wants console to play videogames, this will never change; also, they want "plug and play", easy, fast, all is ready, and you don't have to waste time to configure a lot of things.   Also, Uncharted4 graphics is even better than most of PCs games, all in all, graphics/art dedign, effects, and what you said only apply to hardcore PC gamers.

And once NEO will come out, it's gonna be another option for many other console gamers, the more hardcore ones ;)  

1) Wrong. PC's aren't big, nousy and unable to be in a lounge room environment. - PC's don't need noisy optical drives, PC's also have higher quality, quieter fans than the consoles, PC's can also be water cooled or be completely passively cooled.

And you could have your PC in another room and wireless stream it to your PC.

PC is as flexible as you want to make it, it is an open platform, consoles are limited and constrained.





2) PC's come in all shapes and sizes. Case in point: ITX.



3) A high-end PC built last console generation is still going to be capable of running games this generation with a GPU upgrade, provided you have a Nahelem or better Quad. Initial Costs are offset by cheaper games, free online, cheaper accessories.
I have saved THOUSANDS by having the bulk of my games library on PC verses console.


4) Steam in big picture mode with a standard controller is entirely possible, it functions just like a console, just turn it on, fire up a game, no keyboard or mouse is actually required.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFrL6-OhN94

Consider yourself enlightened.


Now lets look at what consoles have become... They are now having semi-regular hardware upgrades/replacements (PS4 Neo) or short life cycles (Wii U), they require constant multi-gigabyte patches due to games often being buggy on launch. (Some 10's of gigabytes, case in point: Halo: The Master Chief Collection) constant OS/Firmware upgrades and their own long list of other issues.
Their games are graphically inferior, struggling to even achieve 1080P minimum across the board.

They have lost their ability to just be plug and play, I often don't end up playing a game for months, if I were to fire up Halo 5 right now, I'll probably be greeted with an update to the game, again, which turns me off from picking it up and casually playing it.

Console gamers play games on consoles, and do not want to bring their pc in the leaving room,easy as that. You may show all the pics you want to promote PC gaming  in a living room, but fact is most of people will never move a PC in their living room. If it was like you are saying,we would  never have 56m PS4 sold by the end of 2016, as most of us forecast, but we  would have many more pc in our living room. Why people buy so many PS4 when moving a pc to play games is better? And Please don't enlighten me, I don't need. Also, powerful PC are more noisy, produce more heath and consume a lot more electricity and are way bigger!



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Please stop this pc vs ps4 nonsense.
Has nothing to do with actuall videogames.

Thx a lot



 

My youtube gaming page.

http://www.youtube.com/user/klaudkil

Yep, i like my console gaming. Can't stand gaming on PC, for the most part.



Yep, thats pretty silly



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Nate4Drake said:
freebs2 said:

To be honest, I'm kinda regretting I've bought a Ps4.
I've bought it mainly for Bloodborne and I was mildly disappointed by it. Besides Bloodborne there aren't other exclusives I feel like I must have for my tastes; I'm quite intrigued about Horizon and I'd like to pick up Ratchet sooner or later, also Rime and The Last Guardian are quite interesting, but that's about it.
As for 3rd party games, I just feel prices are a rip-off and I'm not willing to pay for online subscriptions. Plus I believe that one the Ps4 neo kick-off, the OG Ps4 has an high probability of getting watered-down games.
PC gaming on the other hand seems to me is becoming more viable by the day.

I really don't agree with you; powerful PCs are very expensive , and most of casual gamers and harcore/casual gamers don't want or can't spend a lot for powerful GPU, and play the same games at higher res and some slighty prettier textures; also, PCs are big, noisy, and you can't bring them in your living room, and stay confortable on a sofà, playing infront on a big TV; console gamers wants console to play videogames, this will never change; also, they want "plug and play", easy, fast, all is ready, and you don't have to waste time to configure a lot of things.   Also, Uncharted4 graphics is even better than most of PCs games, all in all, graphics/art dedign, effects, and what you said only apply to hardcore PC gamers.

And once NEO will come out, it's gonna be another option for many other console gamers, the more hardcore ones ;)  

I'm not saying people should stop buying consoles, I'm saying, form my personal perspective and my interests and as one who have always played on consoles mainly, PC gaming is becoming the better option to play 3rd party games. 

Also, as someone noted, you showed some severe misconceptions about PC gaming. Without going too much into detail, PCs give you freedom of choice: you can play on the desk with mouse and keyboard, or on the sofa with the gamepad you like most; you can go for expansive hi-end graphics or for a compact medium-range machine, plus you don't have to pay subscriptions to play online and games are far more affordable.



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Nate4Drake said:

Console gamers play games on consoles, and do not want to bring their pc in the leaving room,easy as that. You may show all the pics you want to promote PC gaming  in a living room, but fact is most of people will never move a PC in their living room. If it was like you are saying,we would  never have 56m PS4 sold by the end of 2016, as most of us forecast, but we  would have many more pc in our living room. Why people buy so many PS4 when moving a pc to play games is better? And Please don't enlighten me, I don't need. Also, powerful PC are more noisy, produce more heath and consume a lot more electricity and are way bigger!

That wasn't the point of his response and you know it.  You either lied, or you have an early 2000's understanding of where PC technology is, and he corrected you.  You're more than welcome to your console, nobody's stopping you.  However, expect to be enlightened when making false or erroneous statements on a subject you know little about.



Bloodborne alone makes the PS4 worth it.

If you love videogames, you have to play this game. It is the game of the generation.



Swordmasterman said:

PS4 Neo is still a rumor, we must wait until E3 to take conclucions.

And one of the bad things about PC, is that the really Powerful ones use too much eletricity, some even more than a Air Conditioner.

The Neo was confirmed by Sony.

Miguel_Zorro said:
Please stop with the PC vs PS4 posts.

Pemalite, I think your post would be informative for people as a stand alone thread (minus the consoles-are-inferior part at the end, which people will take as bait). There are obviously a lot of misconceptions about PC gaming in the living room.


To be fair. I didn't start the PC vs PS4 debate. If someone rubbishes another platform and I believe that information to be factually incorrect, I am likely to say something, regardless of the platform.

As for consoles being inferior, I mean that purely in a technical sense and I did back my argument up with information, if that is somehow frowned upon, so be it.

And it could also be said the poster I was replying to was baiting.



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Pemalite said:
Swordmasterman said:

PS4 Neo is still a rumor, we must wait until E3 to take conclucions.

And one of the bad things about PC, is that the really Powerful ones use too much eletricity, some even more than a Air Conditioner.

The Neo was confirmed by Sony.

Miguel_Zorro said:
Please stop with the PC vs PS4 posts.

Pemalite, I think your post would be informative for people as a stand alone thread (minus the consoles-are-inferior part at the end, which people will take as bait). There are obviously a lot of misconceptions about PC gaming in the living room.


To be fair. I didn't start the PC vs PS4 debate. If someone rubbishes another platform and I believe that information to be factually incorrect, I am likely to say something, regardless of the platform.

As for consoles being inferior, I mean that purely in a technical sense and I did back my argument up with information, if that is somehow frowned upon, so be it.

And it could also be said the poster I was replying to was baiting.

When was the Neo confirmed by Sony ? in the last 2 months i was away from Internet 2-3 weeks maybe i missed it, but if you are talking about the Silence they are making while there are a lot of Rumors, this isn't a confirmation.

And as my Personal Opinion the Neo or any Upgradable console is the dumbest idea ever.



Miguel_Zorro said:
Please stop with the PC vs PS4 posts.

Pemalite, I think your post would be informative for people as a stand alone thread (minus the consoles-are-inferior part at the end, which people will take as bait). There are obviously a lot of misconceptions about PC gaming in the living room.

Yep, and anywhere they're voiced, they should be corrected.