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Sixteenvolt420 on 05 May 2016
DonFerrari said:
PS4 missing 1.6M to get a 2:1 against X1... on the rithm things have going that won't happen until next year. A lot of people were expecting this to happen before April started.

But then we don't have any hard data to X1. But since we do have USA total from NPD and we can assume the proportion against total from earlier in the gen and from last gen. 21M isn't much far from truth imho.

For all we know, PS4 could already be at 2:1. IGN posted an article last week, stating the X1 had sold roughly 19 Million consoles to date.



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Eagle367 on 05 May 2016

Who knows true psvita numbers. The EU no.s are way too high and I think the U has already crossed it in gross units sold but Sony will never let us know true vita numbers so we'll never know



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DonFerrari on 05 May 2016
Sixteenvolt420 said:
DonFerrari said:
PS4 missing 1.6M to get a 2:1 against X1... on the rithm things have going that won't happen until next year. A lot of people were expecting this to happen before April started.

But then we don't have any hard data to X1. But since we do have USA total from NPD and we can assume the proportion against total from earlier in the gen and from last gen. 21M isn't much far from truth imho.

For all we know, PS4 could already be at 2:1. IGN posted an article last week, stating the X1 had sold roughly 19 Million consoles to date.

Yes it could. No numbers from X1 are trully thurstworthy (outside of NPD and Japan). Then we can put a 19-21M as reasonable estimation for X1 sales.



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Welfare on 05 May 2016

Jesus, how can ioi miss shipment results and still over estimate weeks after the fact? It's impossible for the PS4 to be at 39.9m week ending April 2, when Sony only shipped 40m as of March 31.

PS4 LTD 2015 is still over estimated by a lot. VGC has it at 36.45m as of Jan 2, 2016, when Sony confirmed the PS4 sold 35.9m as of Jan 3, 2016. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps4-sales-nearing-36-million-after-adding-57-milli/1100-6433517/

2014 LTD is also over estimated at 19.09m as of Jan 3, 2015, when Sony yet again confirmed they sold 18.5m as of Jan 4, 2015. https://www.playstation.com/en-us/corporate/press-releases/2015/playstation-4-ps4-sales-surpass-185-million-units-worldwide/

2013 LTD is actually slightly under estimated, with VGC showing 4.19m as of Dec 28, 2013 when Sony confirmed they sold more than 4.2m as of Dec 28, 2013 http://www.polygon.com/2014/1/7/5284336/sony-playstation-ces-2014-ps4



Won bet with t3mporary_126 - I correctly predicted that the Wii U's LTD at the end of 2014 would be closer to 9 million than 10 million. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6673287

mornelithe on 05 May 2016
CGI-Quality said:
Welfare said:

Jesus, how can ioi miss shipment results and still over estimate weeks after the fact? It's impossible for the PS4 to be at 39.9m week ending April 2, when Sony only shipped 40m as of March 31.

PS4 LTD 2015 is still over estimated by a lot. VGC has it at 36.45m as of Jan 2, 2016, when Sony confirmed the PS4 sold 35.9m as of Jan 3, 2016. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps4-sales-nearing-36-million-after-adding-57-milli/1100-6433517/

2014 LTD is also over estimated at 19.09m as of Jan 3, 2015, when Sony yet again confirmed they sold 18.5m as of Jan 4, 2015. https://www.playstation.com/en-us/corporate/press-releases/2015/playstation-4-ps4-sales-surpass-185-million-units-worldwide/

2013 LTD is actually slightly under estimated, with VGC showing 4.19m as of Dec 28, 2013 when Sony confirmed they sold more than 4.2m as of Dec 28, 2013 http://www.polygon.com/2014/1/7/5284336/sony-playstation-ces-2014-ps4

I imagine it's the same reason why the Wii and 360 stayed overtracked for so long. He'll get to them when he gets to them.

Actually, no, it's likely because for whatever reason Sony's releases aren't itemized the way Microsoft's releases are.  We've run into this problem in the past where Sony's given clear unequivocal statements regarding sales figures and they've not been updated for weeks on end, whereas, a communication from Microsoft prompts an update w/in 2 days.  The response then, was, due to an itemization difference they didn't know where to add/subtract numbers from certain parts of the world, and rather leave the total sales knowingly incorrect, than giving one part of the world incorrect and the totals accurate.



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mornelithe on 05 May 2016
CGI-Quality said:
mornelithe said:

Actually, no, it's likely because for whatever reason Sony's releases aren't itemized the way Microsoft's releases are.  We've run into this problem in the past where Sony's given clear unequivocal statements regarding sales figures and they've not been updated for weeks on end, whereas, a communication from Microsoft prompts an update w/in 2 days.  The response then, was, due to an itemization difference they didn't know where to add/subtract numbers from certain parts of the world, and rather leave the total sales knowingly incorrect, than giving one part of the world incorrect and the totals accurate.

In other words, there's some favoritism floating around?

o.O?  No.  I mean you could take it that way, I generally throw a barb in there regarding this, as well as the 3-quote tree bullshit.  However, the itemization of Sony's releases was provided as the reason for the past issues w/ updating sales numbers, so, is it not reasonable to assume that's the reason this time around?



mornelithe on 05 May 2016
CGI-Quality said:
mornelithe said:

o.O?  No.  I mean you could take it that way, I generally throw a barb in there regarding this, as well as the 3-quote tree bullshit.  However, the itemization of Sony's releases was provided as the reason for the past issues w/ updating sales numbers, so, is it not reasonable to assume that's the reason this time around?

I think you misunderstood the humor, there. :S

In any event, it's absolutely fair to assume that. Yes. 

Hah yeah, I missed the implied humor :)  All good.



Ruler on 05 May 2016
retroking1981 said:
CGI-Quality said:
PlatformN. AmericaEuropeJapanGlobal
52,261 59,622 20,631 159,389
40,025 40,534 16,930 105,913
40,108 24,064 92 72,510
11,173 16,851 6,532 37,287
1,351 9,176 11,968 27,986
1,565 3,290 998 7,642
3,234 1,331 2 5,199

 

I don't believe those Wii U EU numbers at all.

Whats not to believe? Europe should have the most remaining stock by now, so it should outsell the other regions from here on out if the wii u isnt produced



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Welfare on 05 May 2016
mornelithe said:
CGI-Quality said:

I imagine it's the same reason why the Wii and 360 stayed overtracked for so long. He'll get to them when he gets to them.

Actually, no, it's likely because for whatever reason Sony's releases aren't itemized the way Microsoft's releases are.  We've run into this problem in the past where Sony's given clear unequivocal statements regarding sales figures and they've not been updated for weeks on end, whereas, a communication from Microsoft prompts an update w/in 2 days.  The response then, was, due to an itemization difference they didn't know where to add/subtract numbers from certain parts of the world, and rather leave the total sales knowingly incorrect, than giving one part of the world incorrect and the totals accurate.

Well, if it helps, VGC has the US total as of April 2 at 13.5m, when it's really at 13.35m. So ~150k over in US.

2014 LTD on VGC is 6.84m, while it is actually 6.68m, so LTD 2014 in the US is over 160k.

2015 LTD on VGC is 12.53m, while it is actually 12.39m, so LTD 2015 in the US is over 140k.

Germany LTD at the end of 2015 is 2.8m http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/01/21/report-ps4-vs-xbox-one-sales-in-2015-in-france-germany/, and VGC has that at 2.635m. That's actually under by 165k.

In the same link, November + December sales in 2015 were 570k, and VGC has total sales there at 566k.

France is in the same link, however, the numbers in that link are sorta outdated in that the numbers were readjusted. Actual sales at the end of 2015 are 2.18m and VGC is at 2.157m. Under by 23k.

UK and Japan are pretty close, and doesn't need to be looked at. 

Looks like the over estimating is coming from NA and other contires within EMEA.



Won bet with t3mporary_126 - I correctly predicted that the Wii U's LTD at the end of 2014 would be closer to 9 million than 10 million. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6673287

mornelithe on 05 May 2016
Welfare said:
mornelithe said:

Actually, no, it's likely because for whatever reason Sony's releases aren't itemized the way Microsoft's releases are.  We've run into this problem in the past where Sony's given clear unequivocal statements regarding sales figures and they've not been updated for weeks on end, whereas, a communication from Microsoft prompts an update w/in 2 days.  The response then, was, due to an itemization difference they didn't know where to add/subtract numbers from certain parts of the world, and rather leave the total sales knowingly incorrect, than giving one part of the world incorrect and the totals accurate.

Well, if it helps, VGC has the US total as of April 2 at 13.5m, when it's really at 13.35m. So ~150k over in US.

2014 LTD on VGC is 6.84m, while it is actually 6.68m, so LTD 2014 in the US is over 160k.

2015 LTD on VGC is 12.53m, while it is actually 12.39m, so LTD 2015 in the US is over 140k.

Germany LTD at the end of 2015 is 2.8m http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/01/21/report-ps4-vs-xbox-one-sales-in-2015-in-france-germany/, and VGC has that at 2.635m. That's actually under by 165k.

In the same link, November + December sales in 2015 were 570k, and VGC has total sales there at 566k.

France is in the same link, however, the numbers in that link are sorta outdated in that the numbers were readjusted. Actual sales at the end of 2015 are 2.18m and VGC is at 2.157m. Under by 23k.

UK and Japan are pretty close, and doesn't need to be looked at. 

Looks like the over estimating is coming from NA and other contires within EMEA.

I don't post the numbers, so I couldn't tell you if this helps or not.