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I think a lot of people misread what I said. Zelda U doesn't count as it's not exclusive. It is still being cannibalised by the NX's release date. I certainly don't see it coming out before the NX's release and it certainly looks like Nintendo is going to push it for people to upgrade for a better experience.

As for some of those other games. Yes they are coming, but you guys mentioned what? 3? While some of them look cool. They don't have something for everyone. Which is why I feel it's a notable issue. People complained about Nintendo have droughts before, but this is something different.




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Conina said:
                                         

"Vastly superior" to what? The PS2 version?

All other versions were vastly superior to the 3DS version (resolution, jaggies, framerate, controls...)


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I watched the video and I am mega confused about something. Why does the 3DS version look out of contrast and so bright? I can tell you that my copy of the game doesn't look like that, and I doubt my 3DS is a special snowflake. This a very bad comparison because the recording quality is crap. It doesn't even look remotely right. Then again.... even screen shot of a 3DS game looks like shit in comparison of how it looks on screen :/ 3DS games need to be bullshot for that reason.

I've played and beaten the PS2 and 3DS version and I got my friend to play the HD version on the PS3. I watched him play it all the way through. The resolution is worse on the 3DS and there are indeed a fair few jaggies, but the details and poly count was higher. You can see the details on his beard and hair, which was more or less missing on the HD version. There's some environmental details removed but the textures on character models were higher. The frame rate was an issue on the 3DS.

Something I do want to add... the Vita version looks amazing! I'm impressed, but I shouldn't be, the DPI would be very good. I love how they brought the color out more.  The HD collection is just a resolution increase from the original PS2 games, where Snake Eater 3D had new models made for the game, with higher poly count. Also the game play was better on the 3DS, improved controls and you could do a few more things that really helped the experience imho.




Conina said:
Dunban67 said:

I think you are correct-   I recently opened a steam account for my Son and i to start  buying/playing the occasional pc game-   it is taking me some time to get used to the non "console contoller" controls but i gues it willl come in time-

Most PC games of the last decade have good "console controller" support. Just connect an Xbox360-controller (the wired are the cheapest and reliable ones) and give it a go.

Thanks! ill give it a try- that will be great- 



Airaku said:
Conina said:
                                         

"Vastly superior" to what? The PS2 version?

I watched the video and I am mega confused about something. Why does the 3DS version look out of contrast and so bright? I can tell you that my copy of the game doesn't look like that, and I doubt my 3DS is a special snowflake. This a very bad comparison because the recording quality is crap. It doesn't even look remotely right. Then again.... even screen shot of a 3DS game looks like shit in comparison of how it looks on screen :/ 3DS games need to be bullshot for that reason.

I've played and beaten the PS2 and 3DS version and I got my friend to play the HD version on the PS3. I watched him play it all the way through. The resolution is worse on the 3DS and there are indeed a fair few jaggies, but the details and poly count was higher. You can see the details on his beard and hair, which was more or less missing on the HD version. There's some environmental details removed but the textures on character models were higher. The frame rate was an issue on the 3DS.

I'm glad that you had fun with the 3DS version. But a few changes of Snake's hair and some minor added effects doesn't make it to the "vastly superior version", when in all other departments there had to be made compromises/sacrifices, especially resolution (combined with no anti-aliasing, resulting in jaggies) and frame rate, but also many textures and less foliage.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Conina said:
                                         

I'm glad that you had fun with the 3DS version. But a few changes of Snake's hair and some minor added effects doesn't make it to the "vastly superior version", when in all other departments there had to be made compromises/sacrifices, especially resolution (combined with no anti-aliasing, resulting in jaggies) and frame rate, but also many textures and less foliage.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Have you actually played it? You're posting some very stretched out shots. I've played all the versions, and I got to say the 3DS one is the best. Especially with the greater control of freedom and ability to do more things like extract information and hold enemies as hostages.




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Airaku said:

Have you actually played it? You're posting some very stretched out shots. I've played all the versions, and I got to say the 3DS one is the best. Especially with the greater control of freedom and ability to do more things like extract information and hold enemies as hostages.

1. Yeah, I have played through the 3DS-Demo several times, I played through the Vta version and I've played the PS2 version several times. Haven't played the PS3 or 3DS version, still hoping for a PC version of the MGS Collection.

2. The screenshots and screengrabs from the PS2/3DS-comparison video are from Digital Foundry, normally they know their stuff.

But here are some from Gamespot... don't really look better:

I'm sure you'll dismiss them either, ignorance is bliss. But you are free to post some of your own 3DS screenshots, if they represent the version so much better.

3. The 3DS version had some improvements, but most reviewers wrote that these advantages can't outweigh the disadvantages.

EuroGamer / Digital foundry: "Ultimately, this is a lacklustre port of a fantastic game. The sad thing is that the improvements to manoeuvrability and updated visuals show us what the ultimate Metal Gear Solid 3 would look like - but then Snake Eater 3D fails to deliver that due to stodgy aiming, low resolutions and a choppy frame-rate. Even in this diminished form, Snake Eater is still massively enjoyable, but unless you're really keen on playing it on the go, it's hard to recommend this over its console counterparts."

Game Informer: "This version is only worthwhile for people who have no other choice. Even then, with the $40 you'd spend on Snake Eater 3D, you could probably buy an old PS2 and the original game, or the HD Collection on 360 and PS3. If you want the real Snake Eater experience, those are far better options."

GameTrailers: "Aside from the original PS2 release, this is easily the worst iteration of Snake Eater. The lack of extras, the frustrating controls, and the overall performance issues hold it back from being one of the premier third-party games for the 3DS. Don't be hypnotized by this snake's gaze--this is far from the optimal way to experience this classic."

Destructoid: "It all results in a game with 9.5/10 ideas delivered in a 6/10 package. If you already own the original, or if you aren't keen on playing Snake Eater on a portable, then there is no reason to pick it up again. If you do want the game on the go, you may be better off waiting for the Metal Gear Solid HD Collection on the PS Vita. If you're never going to buy a Vita and you have no other way to get your hands on Metal Gear Solid 3, you should definitely grab Snake Eater 3D. Those who were hoping for a new or improved version of the game will be disappointed."



Airaku said:
Dunban67 said:
                                         

I agree with you and i hope we are both wrong- but i think Kimishima is wanting to start w as clean a slte as possible and putting the wii u behund them asap is/will be part of that -    I guess it will ultimately depend on how many wii u owners make the jump to NX and how quickly they do so

Well he is the same guy who thought the Wii U was a stupid idea in the first place and that it would fail. He later went on to say he was misunderstood and didn't mean it like that. He basically back tracked it and said in the nicest way possible. The Wii U sucked. Which it didn't, but he kind of had the "I told you so" attitude. Maybe I am exaggerating it a bit... but even still. I don't think we are both wrong. I'm pretty sure he started trashing the Wii U concept within a day he got into office. If he had more plans for it, we would know about more games by now. Shit, I hope they have a game or two in the pipeline. I thought we'd get new ones until he started going off at the investors meeting about how E3 will be dedicated at E3 and that the NX is forward thinking and the holiday is somewhat of a write off to prepare for the NX and how it's going to have this "fantastic software line up". He might as well have said "Oh yeah, we cannibalized  all the future Wii U games and moved them over the NX, because the NX is going to be a hundred times better"

He basically doesn't give a flying fuck about the Wii U, nor does he care on the opinions that Nintendo fans hold regarding the Wii U. His mind is set, and he's not looking back. I suspect Nintendo may lose some of their fans over this, but I also think it could be for the best as far as Nintendo themselves as a company is concerned. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't even care because he'll be brining in new fans and people will likely be wowed by the NX. So I can understand why some fans actually feel betrayed by him. Iwata wouldn't do this as he cared deeply for the system, Nintendo fans, and Iwata also reduced the scope of Nintendo to be more innovative and creative.

Kimishima clearly wants Nintendo to be the behemoth they once were. He has the money and resources to do this as well. It appears he's restructuring the company as a whole. We also need to remember that even though Microsoft has more money as a whole, and Sony maybe and they were on the verge of bankruptcy a few years back. Nintendo technically has the most money in terms of "video game" revenue and budget. After all that is really their only area of business. For now.

This is of course how I view the situation and it's my personal interpretation. It may not be true, but it sure as hell seems like it to me. To the point I actually believe this shit.

I hope so , kimishima seems like no president before, but he does bad decisions, like having NIntendo not having the NX reveal at E3, and so many droughts. I wonder if hes taking any risks, or if he has another bigger plan up in his sleeve



Probably only about a year, which is a shame because Mario Kart 8's online is really fun. At least Nintendo has local multiplayer games that are future-proofed so they can still have a variety of multiplayer options once online is shut down.



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