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Trump or Clinton

Trump 444 33.61%
 
Clinton 487 36.87%
 
Undecided 109 8.25%
 
Not of age or not American 281 21.27%
 
Total:1,321

Despite being conservative, I would vote Clinton if I was American.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

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I am American raised, and there is still another option. Bernie Sanders 2016. The only real authentic candidate in the race. Learn of how the DNC stole this primary election from the people.

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spemanig said:
CosmicSex said:
For those naive enough to think that voting doesn't matter, be mindful of your own life and aspirations and pick someone knowing that there is always a worse choice. You do this because you don't have any right complaining years down the line when shit hits the fan because there will be a president whether you like it or not.

Lmao, as if your little insignificant vote would actually make a statistical difference, electoral college or otherwise. People should vote so they have permission from nobody to complain about a result they had no significance influence in changing? Get real.

The idea that votes are insignificant have spread to millions of people and suddenly those who haven't been throughly disillusioned have way more influence.  Please snap out of it. In absolute terms every single vote is statistically insignificant.  Should no one vote then?



lol neither, but i think Clinton will win easily.



Faust said:
i vote for the FBI agents to do their job

Exactly this. Clinton needs to be in jail, not on the campaign trail. Crap,  I think I just created a new slogan! =p



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CosmicSex said:
For those naive enough to think that voting doesn't matter, be mindful of your own life and aspirations and pick someone knowing that there is always a worse choice. You do this because you don't have any right complaining years down the line when shit hits the fan because there will be a president whether you like it or not.

Except there are only a handful of states where your vote actually does matter due to the system in place. "Every vote matters" is simply not true due to the electoral college. If you're in a state where the race will be close, sure your vote matters. If you're the majority of Americans in resoundingly red/blue states then your vote is essentially garbage if you're voting for the candidate who is not going to hold your state. 



barneystinson69 said:

Despite being conservative, I would vote Clinton if I was American.

Even though she supports accepting syrian refugees ? 



SkepticallyMinded said:
CosmicSex said:
For those naive enough to think that voting doesn't matter, be mindful of your own life and aspirations and pick someone knowing that there is always a worse choice. You do this because you don't have any right complaining years down the line when shit hits the fan because there will be a president whether you like it or not.

Except there are only a handful of states where your vote actually does matter due to the system in place. "Every vote matters" is simply not true due to the electoral college. If you're in a state where the race will be close, sure your vote matters. If you're the majority of Americans in resoundingly red/blue states then your vote is essentially garbage if you're voting for the candidate who is not going to hold your state. 

Obviously a popular contest would be best but is simply untre to say that your vote doesn't count because a popular victory is required to win an states electoral points. There is simply no way around that fact.  Furthermore only the GOP in recent memory were able to manipulate the electoral college against the citizens.  In defense of the college... without it, California and Texas could single handedly pick the president.  But none of that matters. All that matters here in reality is that states are won on a popular ballot which in some way protects their sovereignty. 



fatslob-:O said:
barneystinson69 said:

Despite being conservative, I would vote Clinton if I was American.

Even though she supports accepting syrian refugees ? 

No, I mean that because I worry that Trump will just ignite the world if he has a diplomatic crisis! I'm not saying this because I like Hillary, I'm saying this because she the best of two shittty canidate's.

And as long as immigration is controlled, and the people are skilled and assimilating, I have no problems with immigrants in NA.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

fatslob-:O said:
barneystinson69 said:

Despite being conservative, I would vote Clinton if I was American.

Even though she supports accepting syrian refugees ? 

Umm... yes. You man not realize this but nearly 100% of Americans are defendant from some for of immigration be it willing or forced. And secondly, most of us -while cautious- aren't heartless.  We actually see humans behind politics and we are naturally empathetic.  There are risks involved and reasonable measures must be made to protect ourselves but we also see no benifit to ourselves in watching others go through turmoil when we are capable of lending a hand to those in need (especially given the billions in aide we give to golks who clearly shouldn't be called allies).  Not everyone feels this way and those deceting have valid arguments that should be voiced.