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Trump or Clinton

Trump 444 33.61%
 
Clinton 487 36.87%
 
Undecided 109 8.25%
 
Not of age or not American 281 21.27%
 
Total:1,321
gatito said:
Trump being so high on this poll is the most frightening crap i've seen this month. Hopefully american voters will know better.

Hillary not being in prison is the most frightening thing I've seen this election cycle.

Decades of scandals and blatant corruption and lies and flip-flopping when it's politically convenient and circumventing the law...it's pretty incredible how many people (especially women and minorities) are so complacent about it. Her rise over honest, genuine politicians like Bernie Sanders absolutely REPULSES me.

I can't in good conscience vote for a candidate who completely embodies everything that is wrong with modern politicans. All of the remaining candidates in the race offer America relief from such blatant corruption----just go with someone else...ANYONE else. Yes, even Trump the populist xenophobe would be better.

The millions of Americans who will vote for Trump aren't bumbling, daft idiots----Hillary Clinton really is THAT horrible. You don't tend to hear about it outside of the USA though because the mainstream media is bought and paid for by Hillary's cronies who love to paint Hillary as a saint and Trump as the devil incarnate...but it's a HUGE problem.

Now if this were a Trump vs. Sanders race it would be much different. Trump has even stated himself that he would much rather run against Hillary because Bernie would be a much more difficult candidate to beat. Unfortunately Hillary has rigged the whole election process right from the start, so Bernie never stood a chance.



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Bernie or Bust.. didnt see that option, but that's my choice



Is it down for these 2 only?
Neither



Aquamarine said:
gatito said:
Trump being so high on this poll is the most frightening crap i've seen this month. Hopefully american voters will know better.

Hillary not being in prison is the most frightening thing I've seen this election cycle.

Decades of scandals and blatant corruption and lies and flip-flopping when it's politically convenient and circumventing the law...it's pretty incredible how many people (especially women and minorities) are so complacent about it. Her rise over honest, genuine politicians like Bernie Sanders absolutely REPULSES me.

I can't in good conscience vote for a candidate who completely embodies everything that is wrong with modern politicans. All of the remaining candidates in the race offer America relief from such blatant corruption----just go with someone else...ANYONE else. Yes, even Trump the populist xenophobe would be better.

The millions of Americans who will vote for Trump aren't bumbling, daft idiots----Hillary Clinton really is THAT horrible. You don't tend to hear about it outside of the USA though because the mainstream media is bought and paid for by Hillary's cronies who love to paint Hillary as a saint and Trump as the devil incarnate...but it's a HUGE problem.

Now if this were a Trump vs. Sanders race it would be much different. Trump has even stated himself that he would much rather run against Hillary because Bernie would be a much more difficult candidate to beat. Unfortunately Hillary has rigged the whole election process right from the start, so Bernie never stood a chance.

Oh a bunch of emails. Whoopity doo. Oh noes the emails. They weren't even classified at the time, so what she's not a rocket scientist at setting up email security like most people over the age of 60 are.

I like Bernie too but the system isn't "rigged". Hilary has more votes than Bernie. A lot more votes actually. She has like 2 million more votes over Sanders and more than Trump as well in this primary season. Of course Bernie Sanders supporters convienantly always forget to mention this.

People get caught up in stupid little things with the Clintons ... fact of the matter is the 90s were pretty much the most peaceful and properous period of time for America probably since post World War II. Economy was booming, jobs were plentiful, Clinton is the only president to actually have a surplus instead of a deficet in like the last 100 years, the US didn't get caught up in any major wars.

But he oh no, dude got a blow job from an intern. Like who cares. Kennedy probably fucked half the Eastern seaboard, but he also probably prevented nuclear World War III. Gee, which is more important?

Bernie's "honest" ... but "honest" is akin to being "nice" in football ... it's all well and good until you get knocked on your ass. I don't think he'd be able to accomplish 1/3 of what he's proposing and a lot of what he's proposing would send the US into monstrous debt. Clinton may not get people in "oohss" and "ahhhhs" as a "she makes me feel good" type candidate but she'll probably get shit done because she's more of a moderate.

She's the only one that has a tax plan that wouldn't send the US into monsterous debt ... Sanders wants to make everything free and raise taxes everywhere. Trump wants to give massive tax cuts to millionaires/billionaires while spending even more on the military and maintain Medicare/SS, so he's ok with much less tax revenue but more spending. Clinton is the only one with any damn sense fiscally.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI Hillary Clinton lying.

 



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Counter point:

Politifact ranked all the candidates on their honesty based on their statements.

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/fact-checkers-confirm-hillary-clinton-is-more-honest-than-any-of-her-2016-opponents/24196/

Guess what ... Clinton actually when fact checked is the most honest. Sanders was no.2, Cruz and Trump were basically lying out their ass.

The Republicans have been smearing Hilary for 15+ years because they're afraid of her, they know the Clinton presidency was a very good one and they need to attack her and brand her in 1500 different ways.

Also a politican changing position on something over the course of 15 years is not "lying". It's simply changing a position which I would hope any sensible person would do, I don't believe everything exactly the same way as I did 20 years ago.



Scoobes said:
COLINBATSEY said:

Well it certainly did in the last American ones, we all know the reason Obama was re elected to serve a second term and it sure as hell had nothing to do with his policies that is for sure.

I want my country back that is not racist. I want to be controlled by my own elected Government not unelected people in Brussels. I want us to be able to control our own borders and refuse entry to who we want.

Makes me laugh the Liberals will shout racist for that, but did you know the open door EU policy is stopping people we actually need coming here?

For example a non skilled worker from Poland has more chance of getting in to the UK than a highly skilled Doctor from India. Where is the fairness in that? We already have enough of our own low skilled workers we should not be importing them.

This is just one example why we need change I could go on all day.

You're very angry. I think you need to stop reading UKIP propaganda. It's mostly bullshit scapegoating of the EU for our own politicians incompetence.

Bullshit propaganda?

When you are older than 16 kid you will realise.

Why is it Farage has been right about 99.9% of things he has said? He is the only politician with balls.

Why is it he the only MEP who actually wants to get him self sacked, if we leave the EU he loses his job. The others are just in it for the gravy train.

Once you hit puberty come back to me and tell me UKIP is propaganda bullshit.

If you are old enough to remotley understand or listen to politics I take it you are one of few things, either a brain washed tree hugging student supporting Lib dems or the green party, a goldfish brain supporting Labour forgetting the mess New Labour did with Mr war crimes Blair opening up our country to invaders  or you love seeing the old, poor, ex service, disabled face cuts cuts cuts while the toffs live the high life and support cons.



StarOcean said:

No, I completely and whole heartedly believe that. It's all a joke to me. And no serious discussion about politics will ever be made with me. So continuing even this conversation is pretty much a dead end. Continue to reply if you like though

Not worth it.



Aquamarine said:
gatito said:
Trump being so high on this poll is the most frightening crap i've seen this month. Hopefully american voters will know better.

Hillary not being in prison is the most frightening thing I've seen this election cycle.

Decades of scandals and blatant corruption and lies and flip-flopping when it's politically convenient and circumventing the law...it's pretty incredible how many people (especially women and minorities) are so complacent about it. Her rise over honest, genuine politicians like Bernie Sanders absolutely REPULSES me.

I can't in good conscience vote for a candidate who completely embodies everything that is wrong with modern politicans. All of the remaining candidates in the race offer America relief from such blatant corruption----just go with someone else...ANYONE else. Yes, even Trump the populist xenophobe would be better.

The millions of Americans who will vote for Trump aren't bumbling, daft idiots----Hillary Clinton really is THAT horrible. You don't tend to hear about it outside of the USA though because the mainstream media is bought and paid for by Hillary's cronies who love to paint Hillary as a saint and Trump as the devil incarnate...but it's a HUGE problem.

Now if this were a Trump vs. Sanders race it would be much different. Trump has even stated himself that he would much rather run against Hillary because Bernie would be a much more difficult candidate to beat. Unfortunately Hillary has rigged the whole election process right from the start, so Bernie never stood a chance.

Wait a second... is there any proof of those accusations? Because i'm sure there would be a trial if there was. 

Has it occured that those are campaigns to defame her? Also, when did changing your mind become a bad thing? That is the sign of intelligence. That tells you she is a reasonable person willing to re-evaluate a difficult situation.

Look, the thing is... what i have seen of Hillary, she looks like a responsible person that advocates good causes and is respected outside of the US. When i look at Trump i see a lunatic willing to run a country to his racist whims and a laughing stock outside of the US.

What do you want for the US' future? Back to beeing a laughing stock as it was with Bush or continuing to have a respected administration like Obama's? I really don't get it.



Neither since I'm 16 and I live in Italy :p
If I were to decide I'd say Trump since there's something that bugs me about Clinton, plus I'm confident Trump is saying dumb stuff just to draw attention. I bet that if he's a bilionaire he has to have some wit in his pate...