I was pretty disappointed by both. Walked into the movie theatre wanting to love them, left really annoyed.

That said, Civil War is a much better movie, because despite lacking any of the weight and impact that a Civil War movie should have had, it's a fun popcorn flick throughout. If someone just wants to watch a spectacle with lots of humor, and heroes kicking each other around, this movie is aces. It's paced well, and it ticks all the boxes it needs to make sure you're entertained throughout.

BvS is the opposite, I appreciate the fact that it tried to create an appropriate amount of weight to the situation, but it's poorly paced, severely lacking in contrast for the two titular characters, and worst of all, it's built around a Looney toon of a Lex Luther, who's plan (and by extension the movie's plot) is completely ridiculous, and full of more holes than Swiss cheese to boot. And while the action scenes are amazing, they are far too few and far between to distract you from all of that.

It's very frustrating to me, because if I could just get a combination of DC's willingness to actually explore the darker aspects of their stories, and take risks, with Marvel's ability to execute, then I'd actually get what I want to see. Sadly, Marvel is content to release one formulaic popcorn flick after another while keeping the status quo from story to story as unchanged as possible, while DC sort of has the right idea, but it's trapped in a dark basement with Zack Snyder who's so desperate to catch lightning in a bottle that he keeps grasping at the dead air around it

He could've split up that one movie into two movies. It wouldve made more sense in the long run. Batman vs Suoerman could've been one story and Dawn of Justice could've been a better more coherent story working its way up to building the justice league.

Well, it's official. Captain America: Civil War has officially outgrossed Batman v Superman by over 70 million dollars despite only being released in North America for 10 days and Worldwide for 17 days.

it did go below 90% on RottenTomatoes, but I'm okay with that since it still is at 89, vs Batman v Superman's Abhorrent 27%.

8th highest gross in 10 days, and is on pace to end up between 420-445 million domestic and 1.2-1.3 billion worldwide. coming off 85 million internationally and 72 million domestically this weekend. Just...*Slow claps* Well deserved. Can't wait to see where this one ends up.

Saw it a second time this weekend and loved it even more this time. it's just so fun, so smart, so mature. I mean, I did poke a few holes in the story, but the 'cinematic expansive world' thing works because you can kind of tuck the plot holes away in a "I bet this will be explained in this other movie" or you can explain it away.

Baron Zemo's plan wasn't needed in the wake of Sokovia? actually it was. They needed that little nudge, and that's why he hired Crossbones in the first place. Just. so many little things that seemed unnecessary could be explained away with whatever you'd like. Not really worth fighting with the minor plot holes that are few and far between....unlike Batman V Superman which seems to spit in the face of the logic set up internally

Like why not give Wonder Woman the Spear? Why did Lois Lane throw said spear into the water? and no, 'because she's stupid' is not an acceptable reason. How did anyone other than Superman know that Doomsday was Kryptonian? Only he and Lex were there for its creation and only they knew of its origin. Why would batman go "I thought she was with you", When he had actually SENT her the email with the information showing that he knew who she was. He asked for her and was still like "I thought she was with you". Why in the world would Superman say "Save Martha"? NOBODY CALLS THEIR MOTHER'S NAME! that's just so stupid.

Anyway, it's clear throughout this movie that Superman and Batman both are stupid, which spits in the face of the concept of Batman being super smart. It's just dumb that they didn't try to talk it out like Stark and Cap did in the airport scene. Also, it's clear in the Avengers that they're not trying to kill one another. "The plan was to go easy on them" or "You're pulling your punches." Character depth through actions and motivations.

Batman v Superman was NOT a 'mature' movie, it is an immature, adolescent movie that thinks 'gritty realism' is the same as 'maturity'. Nope. IT's dumb, it's loud, it's an exercise in style over substance, Please don't confuse 'mature' with 'violent and gritty'. this is not the 90's. We are not angsty teenagers.

It's actually been out for 19 days internationally. If it doesn't gross more than Ultron then something is wrong. Either it's not being perceived as being as good as Ultron or people are slowing getting tired of Marvel properties.

And if you're going by RT, how do feel about the movie being less well received than Spy Kids?

That might be it... As a whole, I ignore a movie's bad moments in favor of the good ones, and the winner for me is the one whose good moments are the best... 

I am saying it because older people are the ones with the DC>Marvel mentality. Most youngsters prefer Marvel and it's action and humor approach to the horribly serious approach of DC... 

Someone understands! 

And I am glad I am not the only one who feels Captain, which before this movie, used to be my favorite of all the Avengers characters, suddenly fell from grace and billionaire playboy man suddenly became my favorite, even though I hated Iron Man before this movie. 

I for once, wanted Stark to beat the tar out of Captain in the end. Before Civil War, it was the other way around... It's Britannia vs Black Knights all over again. We're supposed to root for the rogue dude for no good reason. 

I am tired of doing that. Want me to root for the rogue? Give me one reason to and I might... 

You don't really understand how RottenTomatoes works, do you?  It's not about how GOOD the movie is, but how successfully it did what it was supposed to. 

By your metric, you're trying to say that Zootopia was a better film than The Dark  Knight.  While I adore both films, it'd be foolish to assume that Zootopia is better than The Dark Knight.  Couple that with the fact that Spy Kids (the first one) was actually a pretty great movie in its own right and the fact that film Criticism was different back in, what, 2004 when it came out?  things change.  Times change. We get more perspective and we get harder on all forms of media.  

There's more to a film's quality than its RottenTomatoes score.  That number simply shows a vague representation of how many people liked it at that time, it's not a perrenial ranking system.  Stop being dense just to prove your faulty point. 

That's what I was thinking... I mean, Wonder-woman was fighting him pretty well without super-effective weapons.  She couldn't actually kill him, but she was clearly quicker and a much better fighter.  She could have probably taken him out with the spear, or at the very least weakened him enough for Clark to kill him.  

If there were any plot holes in civil war they were small as hell compared to the gaping hole of plot holes in BVS.

Well I keep saying that!  Like, she was dancing circles around him, matching him blow for blow, and getting up from every massive hit he offered.  She even sliced him up, and cut his hand off.  she had his number!  No reason to not give her the spear.  Too many elements in this movie just felt Michael-bay'd. "Do this!"  "But why?"  "WHO CARES?!  DO IT!  IT'LL LOOK COOL!" "But that doesn't make any sense in the context of the story and characters we've established" "So?  We have a theme we want to push heavily and a few plot points we need to hinge the whole climactic battle scene on.  Context matters little, all about theme and style!" 

And what point is that?

The truth is that critics (the number of which is proportional to its time of release) recommend Spy Kids more than they would recommend Civil War. That's if you believe in the RT system. I don't since I don't think critics are just opinions among millions of others and are more prone to bias than regular users (non-fanboys).