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Uncharted 4: A Thief's End Review Thread - MC: 93 / GR: 92.70%

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sub-zero-TM said:
BraLoD said:
100 from PSX Extreme

Trying to keep the thread alive a little more ey :D well let me contribute as well 

 

anyway amazing scores for an amazing game 38 perfect ones man that is huge.. one more and it will catch up to UC2 

Eh, I'm posting the scores when they hit MC



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90 from EDGE (finally posted on MC)



85 from Riot Pixels



GameCritics: 5/10 ( i knew it...)

http://gamecritics.com/darren-forman/uncharted-4-a-thiefs-end-review/



TRdante said:
GameCritics: 5/10 ( i knew it...)

http://gamecritics.com/darren-forman/uncharted-4-a-thiefs-end-review/

While I think Mr. Forman is being unduly harsh, he makes some good points.

"It’s almost a totally binary system, generally unsatisfying and overused given that these massive traversal sections only serve to pad out the time between major setpieces. No matter how many times a ledge crumbles away in his grip, or how often a building explodes as he’s scaling it, it never becomes involving in a mechanical sense."

I totally agree with this assessment. So many of these sequences are on automatic. Sometimes while climbing in Uncharted 4 I just pressed up on the left stick and checked my phone for new text messages. It's all just so uninvolving. There are exceptions of course. That clock tower. Wow. That demands careful timing, precision jumps, and some mental exercise. 

"If Uncharted 4 played even half as good as it looked, it would be a masterpiece…"

Again, I agree. Technically, Uncharted 4 is a work of art. The draw distance, the textures, the lighting, the image quality, the water effects, the motion capture - it's world-class. If Naughty Dog spent the same energy crafting interesting and involving gameplay, the game would be unstoppable.

That's not to say Uncharted 4 has bad gameplay. I'd rather call it uneven. For every scripted, automatic sequence there's a captivating firefight that demands quick thinking and tactical gunplay. Starting in chapter 17 the game really hits fifth gear. It's spectacular from that point on.  But many of the early chapters are just on auto-pilot.



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Veknoid_Outcast said:
TRdante said:
GameCritics: 5/10 ( i knew it...)

http://gamecritics.com/darren-forman/uncharted-4-a-thiefs-end-review/

While I think Mr. Forman is being unduly harsh, he makes some good points.

"If Uncharted 4 played even half as good as it looked, it would be a masterpiece…"

I don't find this to be a good point at all since it's absolutely not true.



Boutros said:
Veknoid_Outcast said:

While I think Mr. Forman is being unduly harsh, he makes some good points.

"If Uncharted 4 played even half as good as it looked, it would be a masterpiece…"

I don't find this to be a good point at all since it's absolutely not true.

Can you elaborate? That doesn't give me much to go on :(



TRdante said:
GameCritics: 5/10 ( i knew it...)

http://gamecritics.com/darren-forman/uncharted-4-a-thiefs-end-review/

mc score still at 93 weird 

i thought this review will bring it down to 92 

 



Veknoid_Outcast said:
Boutros said:

I don't find this to be a good point at all since it's absolutely not true.

Can you elaborate? That doesn't give me much to go on :(

I mean the gameplay is as good as it gets. Playing the multiplayer makes that obvious. The shooting mechanics are on point (unlike in Uncharted 3) and the climbing has been refined. Playing with the rope is super fun (again more obvious in multiplayer). The one thing I don't really like and feel is a step down is the cover system. I don't find it as responsive as previous entries. But apart from that I don't know how you could say the gameplay is not interesting. It's a third-person shooter after all. Also in singleplayer the driving is really well made. How many games motivates you to find a path with more grip because the ground is made of mud and is slippery? Maybe it's a detail to some but to me it stands out a lot from other games that have driving portions. Also the winch is a super interesting idea that if anything is under used in the game. The swimming is also fun and responsive. I mean I could go on but it's not true at all that Naughty Dog didn't invest time working on polishing the gameplay.



Boutros said:
Veknoid_Outcast said:

Can you elaborate? That doesn't give me much to go on :(

I mean the gameplay is as good as it gets. Playing the multiplayer makes that obvious. The shooting mechanics are on point (unlike in Uncharted 3) and the climbing has been refined. Playing with the rope is super fun (again more obvious in multiplayer). The one thing I don't really like and feel is a step down is the cover system. I don't find it as responsive as previous entries. But apart from that I don't know how you could say the gameplay is not interesting. It's a third-person shooter after all. Also in singleplayer the driving is really well made. How many games motivates you to find a path with more grip because the ground is made of mud and is slippery? Maybe it's a detail to some but to me it stands out a lot from other games that have driving portions. Also the winch is a super interesting idea that if anything is under used in the game. The swimming is also fun and responsive. I mean I could go on but it's not true at all that Naughty Dog didn't invest time working on polishing the gameplay.

Whoa, whoa. I didn't write that Naughty Dog didn't invest any time developing the gameplay in Uncharted 4, or that it's uninteresting. I said that the gameplay is uneven and the production values are all-time great. If the gamplay was also all-time great, the game would be unstoppable.

Don't get me wrong. I enjoyed Uncharted 4 a lot. But I think you'll agree that Naughty Dog invested as much time and resources crafting a story and creating an engine as it did inventing interesting gameplay scenarios. I mean, that's what people expect from Uncharted.

The problem here is that movies and video games demand different things, and they don't always make good bedfellows. Naughty Dog is probably the best in the industry at weaving the two media together, but even they can't negotiate the difference every time. When a sequence unfolds according to a rigid script, it takes away from the agency of the player, which diminishes the gameplay possibilities.

Now, in terms of mechanics, you're right. Uncharted 4 is great. Shooting, moving, and climbing is all much improved since Drake's Deception. But gameplay is more than just mechanics. It's about how the player interacts with and experiences those mechanics.