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1. 40 24.10%
 
2. 28 16.87%
 
3. 73 43.98%
 
4. 25 15.06%
 
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zorg1000 said:
Darwinianevolution said:

If they want to get 3rd parties back they have to do two things: make a console powerful enough to bring their games without needing major downgrades, and an architecture easy to develop for. Of course the userbase will matter too, but at the beginning these two are the important ones. Also, a decent amount of rumours pointed out to an NX slightly stronger than the XBone (and I'd like to think that this delay could mean a power increase around regulat PS4 levels, but that's just me).

Or they can combine their handheld & console into a single unified platform and get similar support that 3DS+Wii U got, which when combined is actually pretty solid. 3DS didnt support Unity & Wii U didnt support Unreal 4, so if NX supports both of those than its very likely that 3rd party support can be even better than 3DS+Wii U recieved.

Even if Nintendo releases a super powerful console, I dont really see the shooter/sports/racing/action crowd (which make up about 80% of PS4/XB1 retail software sales) moving to Nintendo platforms.

Unification seems to be the best route for them at the moment. Also, there is an important element to take into account: most, if not all of the big 3rd parties on the 3DS are eastern companies, with genres like JRPGs and other japanese-focused genres. EA, Activision, Ubisoft, T2, Bethesda and the rest of big western publishers ignored the 3DS as much as the WiiU (or even more). So Nintendo's best bet is to catter the japanese market first, bring all the games that eastern publishers can put in there: Monster Hunter, Youkai Watch, Final Fantasy, Shin Megami Tensei, Dragon Quest, Tales of, Phoenix Wright, Resident Evil... Those games have proven to sell really well on Nintendo systems. After they come, they try to get other games from those companies, like Valkyria Chronicles, Dark Souls, Hitman... With that, the system should have a decent library. After that, if the NX sells well, the western publishers will push their games on the console, to avoid losing a potential profit.



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hoala said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:

If Nintendo goes that route, then they would chose to give up most 3rd party support. Only the Japanese 3rd developers might put big titles on it since we would be talkin about a handheld of sorts.

It's a risky move. There can be no software drought then. None what so ever.

what do they give up?

When they merge handheld and home console they could release theoreticall 2x as much software as right now. That wouldnt cause droughts.

No chance to any big 3rd franchises for starters, and another generation where big 3rd party companies write off Nintendo which might just become - or already has - become a habit. These are big problems.

In theory no software drought would occur, but you never know with Nintendo. I couldn't believe how they failed on the Wii U either at first. But they managed to fall in almost unbelievable obvious traps.



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hoala said:
Darwinianevolution said:

Neither Bethesda nor T2 ever had a really good relation with Nintendo, the 7th gen suffered an important shift and western games became the more popular titles on the market. A port of the PS2 GTAs would have sold really well, but they didn't bring it. We seem to agree that the problem here lies on the trust/confidence of 3rd parties on Nintendo, but Nintendo wants to solve that, they have to start making their consoles powerful enough to not make 3rd parties go through a lot of difficulties to develop for them.

Thats what they did with the wii u.

I already answered that.

Darwinianevolution said:

Well, it is a necessary step to get 3rd party, but it doesn't guarantee it. 



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Stefan.De.Machtige said:
hoala said:

what do they give up?

When they merge handheld and home console they could release theoreticall 2x as much software as right now. That wouldnt cause droughts.

No chance to any big 3rd franchises for starters, and another generation where big 3rd party companies write off Nintendo which might just become - or already has - become a habit. These are big problems.

In theory no software drought would occur, but you never know with Nintendo. I couldn't believe how they failed on the Wii U either at first. But they managed to fall in almost unbelievable obvious traps.

if the system is cheap third party support wouldnt be necessary. Im sure alot people are okay with buying a 100-150€ console addional to play 2x as much nintendo games as the wii u got for 300 € costs.



Darwinianevolution said:
zorg1000 said:

Or they can combine their handheld & console into a single unified platform and get similar support that 3DS+Wii U got, which when combined is actually pretty solid. 3DS didnt support Unity & Wii U didnt support Unreal 4, so if NX supports both of those than its very likely that 3rd party support can be even better than 3DS+Wii U recieved.

Even if Nintendo releases a super powerful console, I dont really see the shooter/sports/racing/action crowd (which make up about 80% of PS4/XB1 retail software sales) moving to Nintendo platforms.

Unification seems to be the best route for them at the moment. Also, there is an important element to take into account: most, if not all of the big 3rd parties on the 3DS are eastern companies, with genres like JRPGs and other japanese-focused genres. EA, Activision, Ubisoft, T2, Bethesda and the rest of big western publishers ignored the 3DS as much as the WiiU (or even more). So Nintendo's best bet is to catter the japanese market first, bring all the games that eastern publishers can put in there: Monster Hunter, Youkai Watch, Final Fantasy, Shin Megami Tensei, Dragon Quest, Tales of, Phoenix Wright, Resident Evil... Those games have proven to sell really well on Nintendo systems. After they come, they try to get other games from those companies, like Valkyria Chronicles, Dark Souls, Hitman... With that, the system should have a decent library. After that, if the NX sells well, the western publishers will push their games on the console, to avoid losing a potential profit.

Basically 100% Nintendo support, strong Japanese support, strong indie support, strong child/family friendly support gives them a constant stream of games.

Western studios like EA (Mass Effect 3, Madden, FIFA, Need for Speed) Activision (Call of Duty: BLOPS 2+Ghosts, 007 Legends, Transformers: Rise of Dark Spark, Amazing Spider Man 1+2), Ubisoft (Assassin 's Creed 3+4, ZombiU, Splinter Cell, Watch Dogs) Warner Bros (Batman Arkham City+Origins, Injustice) gave Wii U moderate support initially, if NX can get and retain that than it will have a very strong lineup when combined with the type of games from the previous paragraph.



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DEAD_ORIGINAL said:
NX will be....the end of these threads, when it release's

But then the amount of energy and threads will be spent on new threads proclaiming that NX will devour the marketshare of whatever console generation that thing will belong to.

Threads will line-up naming every single feature of the NX as the unstoppable selling force that will make the thing soar above everything else.

Wait and see.



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AbbathTheGrim said:
DEAD_ORIGINAL said:
NX will be....the end of these threads, when it release's

But then the amount of energy and threads will be spent on new threads proclaiming that NX will devour the marketshare of whatever console generation that thing will belong to.

Threads will line-up naming every single feature of the NX as the unstoppable selling force that will make the thing soar above everything else.

Wait and see.

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Esiar said:
AbbathTheGrim said:

But then the amount of energy and threads will be spent on new threads proclaiming that NX will devour the marketshare of whatever console generation that thing will belong to.

Threads will line-up naming every single feature of the NX as the unstoppable selling force that will make the thing soar above everything else.

Wait and see.

John Lucas will return?

John Lucas most have a lot of alt-account then. :P



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1