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What do you think?

Just leave the price at $300 microsoft :/ 39 50.65%
 
"Temporary" price cut? XD 26 33.77%
 
Leave it at 349$! No poin... 12 15.58%
 
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Mr Puggsly said:
Faelco said:
Wait, what ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games

So Tetris, Wii Sports, Super Mario Bros, Mario Kart Wii are releasing on Xbox One? Megaton!

Serioulsy, I can't understand what they're even trying to say with such a bad and wrong slogan...

Its referring to 2015 releases.

PS4's new slogan:



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So, something I've kind of noticed with this factoid is that it seems to get increasingly vague with each new iteration. The original statement, if I recall correctly, was for the December NPD, and it went as follows;

'Xbox One is the best place for gamers and the only console that has all top 10 best-selling titles of this generation that launched in 2015.'

Very precise- carefully so- as it's already been mentioned that this only really holds true if you exclude games that didn't launch in 2015. But that's what made this statement such a good one, it was precise, clear-cut, and left nothing to the imagination; the parameters were laid out for people to follow, and there was no excuse for misunderstanding it. Eventually, though, it was swapped out for what seems to be the more commonly used;

"...the only system with every top ten best selling game of 2015.."

So, same overall message as the first statement, but with some of the precise wording rendered a bit less so. Still, it can still certainly be interpreted as the original statement with little difficulty, and anyone who read the original statement would simply carry over the prior meaning to this one. People who saw this message for the first time would likely be unaware of the exclusion of 2014-launched games, though, as the parameters were not specified quite so clearly. But at least if one was made aware, they could look at the statement and say; 'Oh! Yeah, I see how it can be interpreted that way.'

Now to the image shown in the Gamespot article; http://static2.gamespot.com/uploads/scale_super/1179/11799911/3056474-deal.jpg

"The only system with every top ten best-selling console game."

Sooooo this either indicates that the Xbox One now somehow is the only console with all top 10 best-selling games this generation, ooooor we've drifted into what I like to call 'Bad Spin.' The former seems highly unlikely. If we've established that Halo 5 was unable to make the top 10 of 2015 list when games that launched in 2014 were counted, then there's no way it can make the top 10 overall list for this generation, because it only launched at the end of 2015. =P

So, yeah. o.o Bad spin it is! What I'm curious about is whether this is something from Microsoft's own marketing branch, or if we're looking at some overeager third-party marketing firm stepping out of line. This seems a tad too clumsy for Microsoft to try, in my opinion, their wording has generally been extremely careful.



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Just keep the price at $300 with the gift card included. That slogan isn't fooling any gamer.



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Soooo I took a looksie, and the image on the Gamespot article appears to come directly from the U.S. Xbox page, complete with the modified, '2015-less' slogan. It's actually the big banner at the top, no less. (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/consoles?xr=shellnav) Clicking the 'Learn More' button took me straight to the purchase page, so there doesn't seem to be any *footnote:in2015 addendum, and this was a page that had footnotes to specify bundle deals, terms and conditions, etc.

Fascinating. They've actually dropped the 2015 caveat entirely. o_O COULD some Xbox One exclusive game have found its way to the overall top 10 for this generation, and we just didn't notice somehow? It definitely couldn't have been Halo 5, but maybe the Master Chief Collection snuck up there? Because otherwise this is ballsier than the Destiny perfume ad. o___O



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konnichiwa said:
Bandorr said:

If you google their new slogan you can see that they "tweeted" it out a week ago.


Then it said "of 2015". Why did they remove "of 2015"?

Also here is a list (according to NPD) for the 10 best selling games of 2015.

Call of Duty: Black Ops III (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)
Madden NFL 16 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
Fallout 4 (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
Star Wars: Battlefront (Xbox One, PS4, PC)
Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, Xbox One) 360, PS3, PC)
NBA 2K16 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
Minecraft (360, Xbox One, PS3, PS4)
FIFA 16 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
Mortal Kombat X (PS4, Xbox One)
Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)

And? This has become one of those old discussions.  COD AW is not a game from 2015 and on place 11 is Halo 5 making it the console with all the  top ten selling games on its system. Their statement wasn't wrong that was never a issue.

Halo 5 is 14... from just 2015 #8 would be Batman in place of GTAV, Lego Jurrassic world in #9 in place of Minecraft, and Battlefield Hardline at #10 in place of CoD.

So PS4 and XB1 share the top 10... It is an extremely moot point from MS.



konnichiwa said:
Bandorr said:

If you google their new slogan you can see that they "tweeted" it out a week ago.


Then it said "of 2015". Why did they remove "of 2015"?

Also here is a list (according to NPD) for the 10 best selling games of 2015.

Call of Duty: Black Ops III (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)
Madden NFL 16 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
Fallout 4 (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
Star Wars: Battlefront (Xbox One, PS4, PC)
Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, Xbox One) 360, PS3, PC)
NBA 2K16 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
Minecraft (360, Xbox One, PS3, PS4)
FIFA 16 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
Mortal Kombat X (PS4, Xbox One)
Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)

And? This has become one of those old discussions.  COD AW is not a game from 2015 and on place 11 is Halo 5 making it the console with all the  top ten selling games on its system. Their statement wasn't wrong that was never a issue.

Console games. their not counting games on PC.



Honestly, the temporary price cut appears to have done diddly squat to improve sales. Even with the price cut and The Division, the XBO was up by a paltry 5.46% YoY. That might be better than what it would have done without those things, but if April NPD shows it flat or down YoY, we can unequivocally say that the price cut was a failure. If these temporary price cuts do nothing outside the holidays, then they shouldn't bother with them. Just keep the XBO at $350, then introduce a slim model this holiday for $250.



Oh my God, that tagline is hilarious. The knots these companies tie themselves into for good PR is astounding. XD



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Farsala said:
konnichiwa said:

And? This has become one of those old discussions.  COD AW is not a game from 2015 and on place 11 is Halo 5 making it the console with all the  top ten selling games on its system. Their statement wasn't wrong that was never a issue.

Halo 5 is 14... from just 2015 #8 would be Batman in place of GTAV, Lego Jurrassic world in #9 in place of Minecraft, and Battlefield Hardline at #10 in place of CoD.

So PS4 and XB1 share the top 10... It is an extremely moot point from MS.

Console games =p