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Do you think this is what the NX will be?

Yes, this is the future of Nintendo. 26 22.81%
 
No, Nintendo would never do this to me. 67 58.77%
 
Oh crap, my internet will not support this. 21 18.42%
 
Total:114

I'm highly doubtful that NX will be a PS Now style streaming service, with Nintendo using those kinds of hosting servers and Wii Us or handheld devices piggy backing off of that, in that way.
PS Now only has to run PS3 level games, it's a supplementary service, not the basis for the whole Playstation gaming ecosystem.
Latency is too high and bandwidth barely sufficient for this to be used by a small portion of overall users, even if Nintendo only expected Wii U numbers to do this it's probably too much, not even taking into consideration the extra demands of more demanding 8th gen console games.

What I think NX is, is a new OS, that can run all of Nintendo's future games, flexible to the point where Nintendo can release new hardware devices for a variety of needs of gamers (Nintendo have basically said this, with their comparisons to Apple's approach to Apps).
It may release with a new console or a handheld or both in March.
Now it's possible that the whole "supplementary cloud processing tech" patent found be people online recently could elude to people being able to buy more than one console to boost their own processing needs for games or when you have multiple handhelds in the vicinity of each other, playing online together they don't have to each handle the processing needs of that whole game alone, but rather they can all share an even portion of the game's demand, maybe even getting a boost from nearby NX consoles that are also playing the same game or playing with those handheld gamers.
With that kind of a network of users the processing power grows as people buy into this ecosystem, so things can evolve as the install base grows.

Games can scale in performance very easily (PC graphics/performance settings are a clear example of this), if developers plan for that in their product designs.
Nintendo have said NX is a long term strategy, which a local, expanding cloud network would be and using a constantly iterated on OS, with improved devices released every few years, it just makes sense in the modern video gaming world.

This kind of a product would allow Nintendo to adjust to a constantly changing market and deliver what gamers need.

Overall the OS centered focus on core software and flexible, evolving hardware design, with Nintendo branding (though Nintendo will need to work on their brand to make their products attractive once again) would allow Nintendo to actually put the games more at the forefront of their gaming ecosystem.

The reason for the March 2017 launch could just be because the processing tech Nintendo are using in their new devices won't be ready to start shipping to Foxconn until late 2016 and that has a knock on effect with Foxconn being able to ship devices to Nintendo for packaging and then the retailers won't get sufficient launch stock until some time in March.
Zen APUs aren't going to be ready to ship until 2017, so there is at least one example of tech that fits the bill for this.

I doubt Nintendo would bank an entire new gaming platform on streaming, maybe streaming will be a part of the function of NX as a platform, but to only be a streaming service is a bad idea at the current time or any time.
When processors are getting to the point when you can put something as powerful as a PS4 in a notebook by the end of the year and take that on the go with you it makes more sense to use it.
Hell it's not even that costly going by what AMD wants to launch Polaris 10 40 CU GPUs capable of powering VR games for.
Zen will likely be affordable, given how many chips you could probably get off of a 14nm wafer.
Nintendo could launch with a 28nm device, but I wouldn't expect delays to have happened if that's what Nintendo were using, unless Kimishima's comments on games requiring more time to develop is true.
Nintendo are meant to have undergone a big restructuring in how they handle development of handheld and console software, so perhaps that did effect moving games to a new development environment.



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This would go against everything (even if "everything" is still hardly anything), we know at this point, so probably not.

If by some miracle this turned out to be true, well, I guess that's it for my gaming life then. Been fun guys, mostly.



It's obvious that the console was strategically placed in March because the console will get slaughtered in q4 2016. It just goes to show that Nintendo love digging the hole deeper for themselves. Couldn't even wait a full five years before they replaced the wii u.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
It's obvious that the console was strategically placed in March because the console will get slaughtered in q4 2016. It just goes to show that Nintendo love digging the hole deeper for themselves. Couldn't even wait a full five years before they replaced the wii u.

I totally agree, sadly. But Nintendo did say the NX will coexist alongside the Wii U and not replace it. So why have two consoles going at the same time? Truly Nintendo is up to something here and people are freaking out trying to figure out what it is.

I was throwing gasoline on the fire with wild speculations in this thread and I apologize for that. Truly I have no idea what Nintendo's next thing will be. Have to wait and see.



   

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SonytendoAmiibo said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
It's obvious that the console was strategically placed in March because the console will get slaughtered in q4 2016. It just goes to show that Nintendo love digging the hole deeper for themselves. Couldn't even wait a full five years before they replaced the wii u.

I totally agree, sadly. But Nintendo did say the NX will coexist alongside the Wii U and not replace it. So why have two consoles going at the same time? Truly Nintendo is up to something here and people are freaking out trying to figure out what it is.

I was throwing gasoline on the fire with wild speculations in this thread and I apologize for that. Truly I have no idea what Nintendo's next thing will be. Have to wait and see.

Nintendo consoles generally have a shelf life of five to six years from my recollection of growing up on their product. I believe thats a PR stunt to ride out the rest of the Wii U's existence. Until then were speculating but I must say that Nintendo once again ignoring E3 is PR suicide. They should unveil the console at E3 instead of waiting until the end of the year for their own show. The more Nintendo dissects the PR the smaller the viewing pool gets.



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SonytendoAmiibo said:
spemanig said:

You have a fundemental misunderstanding of the literal point of streaming, which is to not need hardware.

You also have a fundemental misunderstanding of how streaming works. Streaming isn't some nebulous ether of easy-to-port airware. It runs on hardware just like everything else. It would be no easier to port games than it is now.

Also, Nintendo doesn't need to stream to not have physical.

You just said it. The NX servers ARE hardware and the games will have to be ported to run on those servers. Also, high security on these servers fits in with statements I have seen online saying Nintendo is putting lots of security features into NX. They have to make sure the games on these servers are secure.

Will I pay $60 bucks to play CD Project Red's Cyberpunk 2077 on PS4 when I already have an NX subscription and can play the game with no extra cost? Or a small extra cost for access to that game? NX would be the more cost effective way to go.

You are assuming that something like Cyberpunk would appear on a streaming service with a NX subscription or small extra cost for access... sorry think you are living in a bit of a dreamworld if you think thats going to happen.

Just look at PS Now for current streaming and what games are on there, nothing substantial and mostly old PS3 games or PS3 exclusives.



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Madword said:
SonytendoAmiibo said:

You just said it. The NX servers ARE hardware and the games will have to be ported to run on those servers. Also, high security on these servers fits in with statements I have seen online saying Nintendo is putting lots of security features into NX. They have to make sure the games on these servers are secure.

Will I pay $60 bucks to play CD Project Red's Cyberpunk 2077 on PS4 when I already have an NX subscription and can play the game with no extra cost? Or a small extra cost for access to that game? NX would be the more cost effective way to go.

You are assuming that something like Cyberpunk would appear on a streaming service with a NX subscription or small extra cost for access... sorry think you are living in a bit of a dreamworld if you think thats going to happen.

Just look at PS Now for current streaming and what games are on there, nothing substantial and mostly old PS3 games or PS3 exclusives.

Like I said, I was just throwing gasoline on the fire with some of the WILD speculations I was making, and I apologize for that.

But who knows, maybe Cyberpunk 2077 will be on NX. I don't know.



   

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Not entirely sure. What I do know (and a reason I AM kind of excited) is that what I had wished for with a 2017 release (my reasonings for wanting it to release that year) seems to align exactly with what Kimishima is saying they aim to do.

- Not bring a rushed console to market
- Give the console more time to have games ready launch year

The ONLY other thing I said that has not been confirmed a reason for a 2017 release, but have been speculated on here as a likely reason why

- Have better hardware than it would have if released in 2016



What if NX is also a android TV of Nintendo's all the released VC games plus all other platforms (Sega, Neo Geo, etc)?
It would be a Virtual Console console + Android TV + connection to other NX devices.

Surely, there wouldn't be lag for those old games.



DélioPT said:
What if NX is also a android TV of Nintendo's all the released VC games plus all other platforms (Sega, Neo Geo, etc)?
It would be a Virtual Console console + Android TV + connection to other NX devices.

Surely, there wouldn't be lag for those old games.

True, older Nintendo games would stream fine even with most people's internet connection.

THIS IS JUST MY SPECULATION: Maybe the NX will be a streaming box but will also have a hard drive. This way some of the game would be downloaded to use locally while the rest of the game streams from a server. Nintendo spent over half a billion dollars last year in R&D. Maybe they came up with a new way to stream games. END OF WILD CRAZY SPECULATION.



   

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