yeah their handhelds. 3ds was weaker as wii as an example.

Gamecube and Wii were ALMOST same power (wii little bit stronger).

Like I already said before, the wii u was a BIG jump for nintendo in performance. The wii u really can handle pretty games (see my videos some posts before). So i could really see them switching their architecture from Power PC to ARM (to have the same chip in their handheld and home console) and ARM chips at the moment just arnt much stronger as the chips used in the wii u.

It like the PS Vita TV (if you want call that a home console). That system was released after the ps4 but with inferior specs (scince it had the same chip as the Vita to let you play vita games on your TV).

The problem this didnt worked for sony was the vita was already dead as they released the VitaTV, their focus was 100% on the Ps4 and the vita didnt got any big titles anymore.

If nintendo release a new handheld called "NX" with similar to wii u performance (maybe a bit stronger, maybe a bit weaker), develop ALL their game for NX (and all those games will be on wii u´s games-level) and ALSO allow you to play all those game on your TV with a "vita tv like" home console device, that could work.

They wouldnt get any third party support but with wii u´s capabilities they can really make good looking games (Zelda U, Mario Kart 8, Windwaker HD). And if all those games can be played on an handheld AND on an home console (because both are using same hardware) and both are relativly cheap (Vita TV is like 50 bucks, so an NX home console with more power then VitaTV could be sold at 100-150 bucks, handheld maybe 200 bucks) they can get a huge userbase (basically wii u and 3ds merged, but with better wii u sales scince cheaper priece and more games) and sell ALOT and many different games.

That's why everything is so abstract at the moment. We don't know what NX is nor do we know what it's capable of. Nintendo wants to hide this technology for as long as they can. Nobody necessarily said that the portable unit would in itself be a traditional console.

And game comapanies fish where the fish are bitign. They're not going to reconsider if a few select people don't have internet, if many of them do. In the US, UK, and Japan, the biggest gaming markets in the world, we are very tech savvy. I'm not saying Nintendo would do this but other companies have.

Think of it like the patent calls it, a supplementary unit. Some sources claim multiple units. We can't limit what NX can do without any concrete evidence. All we can do is go by patents which may or may not be used but at least it's more concrete. Where Vita differentiates from NX speculation is that NX will use the cloud to aid other NX devices, essentnially they will all work together in some way. Just speculation.

Yeah i highly doubt that for several reasons (like if nobody else owns a NX in your area your fcked?; Or if new games gets released and all people are playing their NX´s where do you get ur power? scince everyboy needs his power for himself. And i also dont know if many people are ok with letting their NX console run and use energy all the time so other people could use its power). But we will need to wait and see, i wont say its impossible but i dont believe in it. I think NX will be a console with and current smartphone ARM chip that will be used both in the handheld and in the home console (like vita and vita TV work). It will have similar to wii u´s power, so i can run good looking games like mario kart 8 and zelda wii u but nothing more.  And it will be sold at something between 100 and 200 bucks.

Handhelds and consoles may both be consoles, but they're sorta different lines of beasts. That's why they're kinda kept separate. You can't really compare them hardware wise because they can't really be as powerful as consoles due to size and portablility. 3DS is not as powerful as the Wii U, but it's better than the DS, and continues downward. The Vita isn't as powerful as the PS4 either, but it's better than the PSP. The PSTV is weaker too since it's just a Vita but playable on the TV, like how the super gameboy and GBA player worked. 

If what I remember what I heard was true, the Wii was only about double the power of the GC, so that may not be much, or could be, but it was more powerful.

If the NX was like a handheld, then it would at least be more powerful than the 3DS and maybe as powerful as the Wii U. If it was both a console and handheld, well, that kinda makes a mess of things... If it went that route, then I would be certain it would still be more powerful than the Wii U. It would kind of have to be to be competitive in the current market.

The only reason the Wii worked and lets be honest is because of a miracle controller that fell into their laps by chance that spurred a massive fad for 4 years.

The whole "lets have a console a generation behind everyone else" thing just doesn't work barring a miracle.

The only way Nintendo could justify it is if the NX is a portable hybrid of some kind, but even then it would have to be able to run some version of PS4 ports IMO.

The PS4 will be $299.99 this fall anyway, XBox One even lower ... these are cheap enough to satisfy the budget market. $299 is the new $199.

Well as far as i know you simple cant make a handheld much more powerfull a the wii u right now. The strongest mobile chip so far is the Apple a9x (used in iPad pro) and that might already be to expensive for an nintendo handheld (that ipad is like 1000 bucks).

Alot quotes from iwata hinting a "2 in 1 device". He said somethin like they will merge their handheld and home console systems in the future so they dont have to develop games for both systems anymore. And as far as i know nintendo also merged their handheld and home console studios some months ago, so they dont have seperate development studios anymore. Really hinting a 2in1 device.

Like already discussed many times, todays technolgoy only really allows ARM chips in handhelds (same that are used in smartphones).

We just got new x86 chips that are also working without a fence (intel core M) but those are extremly expensive and also not nearly as strong as an Ps4.

The A9X isn't that expensive, it's a $50-$60 chip at mass production, Apple just has ridiculous profit margins on their products and the massive Retina screen on the iPad Pro is the real main component of the high price.

That said, are laptop GPUs "mobile chips"?

Like already discussed many times, todays technolgoy only really allows ARM chips in handhelds (same that are used in smartphones).

We just got new x86 chips that are also working without a fence (intel core M) but those are extremly expensive and also not nearly as strong as an Ps4.

I think with an cheap 100-200 € device they dont want to stop people to buy the 300€ ps4, but to buy the 300€ ps4 AND the NX for just 100€. That simple didnt worked witht he wii u because the wii u was that expensive. To be honest, it didnt really worked that great with the gamecube either as they made it 99€. 

Maybe AMD is working on some new crazy SOCs that have ps4 powers and dont need a fence and almost no energy^^

Really that cheap? Then they could use something similar to the a9x chip, but even that chip isnt much stronger then the wii u and its still relativly expensive (the ps4 jaguar cpu is like 90 bucks if i remember right and ALOT stronger then the a9x).

Laptops Gpus are special mobile versions of GPUS. They are called Nvidia 960M as example (using an M behind the number). They are relativly expensive, get hot, need fences and need alot energy and are just about as strong as the ps4´s graphics chip.