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Forums - Gaming Discussion - Kimishima Nintendo Investor Q&A (New NX Info, More 3DS, Wii U = Dead)

Soundwave on 29 April 2016
Intrinsic said:
Guess it would be easy to approximate just how powerful the NX will be.

If they plan on selling the console at a profit.... even if said profit is $1, that means thy are making a $300/$400 console if they plan on having something on par with a PS4/PS4k.

Question now is what will Sony do? if Sony keeps the PS4 and PS4k as two seperate consoles (meaning they don't replace one with the other) it could mean that at the time the NX launches you could buy a PS4 for $199 and a PS4k for around $349. Don't can afford to take a loss on the hardware considering the kinda Install base lead they have.

Should be interesting.

I would guess $299.99 with an optional Supplemental Compute Device (SCD) that can boost power beyond that for those who want it for more money. 



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JEMC on 29 April 2016
Soundwave said:
JEMC said:

That depends on the deal. AMD had a deal with Global Foundries with its Bulldozer CPUs where they only payed for the working chips, encouraging GloFo to improve their manufacturing process.

There is nothing that frobids Nintendo to have a similar deal with AMD and GloFo too.

Possible though Nintendo needing millions of chips in a such a short time span could complicate that considerably.

Soundwave, it's April. There's plenty of time to make enough chips/consoles to guarantee availability in one or two regions.

And then there's this:

GlobalFoundries: We started to tape-out chips using second-gen 14nm process technology

http://www.kitguru.net/components/anton-shilov/globalfoundries-we-started-to-tape-out-products-using-second-gen-14nm-process-technology/

GlobalFoundries on Friday confirmed that the first products to be made using the company’s advanced 14nm LPP [low-power plus] manufacturing technology had been taped out. The contract maker of chips did not reveal any details, but indicated that prototype chips had demonstrated “excellent” performance and yields. One of the customers, who will use the 14LPP is Advanced Micro Devices.

And that article is from September of last year!



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Intrinsic on 29 April 2016
Soundwave said:
Nem said:
"- Wii U will only have 800k shipment for the year, the positive according to Kimishima is they can focus on the 3DS now (ouch for Wii U die-hards)"

I think he was talking about manufacturing, not software development. Not to say the Wii U will have new stuff, but it's what he is talking about.

This does make it sound more likely that the NX is indeed a home console. We shall see.

I'd say it's pretty much a lock now. Could be a semi-mobile console I guess, but it sounds like a console for sure. Kimishima even says basically that NX won't impact 3DS shipments, while Wii U shipments will dramatically fall off.

So it must be a product that's closer to the Wii U than 3DS.

All this talk about the NX being a home console or a mobile console..... I think it's all already pretty obvious what it really is. 

It's a home console with a WiiU controller type thing that you can use and do some sort of remote play like stuff from whereever you have access to an internet  connection. Hence befitting of the console+mobile monicker. I also feel they will design it such that the controller thing can act as a stand alone 3DS thing. 



Dulfite on 29 April 2016
Soundwave said:
Dulfite said:
One thing I don't get is people doubting them launching in March instead of the holidays. Your launching a new product. Whoever is a die hard fan of Nintendo is going to buy it regardless of price and time of the year (me). If they launched in holidays and it was discounted or had bundles making it a lesser value, then they would lose out on the money from people like me that are willing to pay for the full price at launch. Holidays should, at the very least, be a few months AFTER a device launches, in order for a company to get as much profit as possible from the die hard fans before selling a bunch of devices to people waiting for bundles and discounts. It's just good business.

This is just a general comment not specifically about this situation, but I always thought the September launch window, which used to be the norm was always pretty good.

You could get the die-hards buying the first wave of systems in September/October and then November/December could be for the holiday rush. That always seemed to make more sense to me, but I think consoles take so much more resources to launch nowadays that they get pushed to the last possible minute (the week of Black Friday in the US).

Or in this case, pushed back months from the intiail goal date (due to numerous reasons). I agree with you.



Soundwave on 29 April 2016
Intrinsic said:
Soundwave said:

I'd say it's pretty much a lock now. Could be a semi-mobile console I guess, but it sounds like a console for sure. Kimishima even says basically that NX won't impact 3DS shipments, while Wii U shipments will dramatically fall off.

So it must be a product that's closer to the Wii U than 3DS.

All this talk about the NX being a home console or a mobile console..... I think it's all already pretty obvious what it really is. 

It's a home console with a WiiU controller type thing that you can use and do some sort of remote play like stuff from whereever you have access to an internet  connection. Hence befitting of the console+mobile monicker. I also feel they will design it such that the controller thing can act as a stand alone 3DS thing. 

I dunno if wifi tech is good enough for that though, PSNow and PSVita streaming works OK ... but it can be pretty hit and miss.

Maybe it's a mobile console like the ol' PC Engine which had like 5 or 6 different versions (really a unified platform):

Pretty freaking cool for 1991 ... a portable 16-bit console. It used the exact same game cards as the console PC Engine, it was basically the same system just with a screen.



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Rain2 on 29 April 2016

I like how Kimishima thinks. I believe NX would've launched this year if it was Iwata doing the decision making. Kimishima is more focused on having games after launch, rather than quick profit during the Holidays.



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Frogger on 29 April 2016

"We are planning for it to be a platform that will be played for a long time."

Duh.

Also, here's something important and obvious - NX will negatively effect Wii U sales buy not 3DS sales. Why? Because they're releasing the console form factor first. Not some weird in-between hybrid. A console that will succeed the Wii U and not the 3DS.

The platform is what isn't a "simple replacement" because it replaces both. That's it. Nothing more. Nothing less. All that is saying is that the platform will be unified.

Can't wait until all the questions are out.



Frogger on 29 April 2016
Rain2 said:
I like how Kimishima thinks. I believe NX would've launched this year if it was Iwata doing the decision making. Kimishima is more focused on having games after launch, rather than quick profit during the Holidays.

I wasn't a fan of Iwata's leadership, but I don't agree with this at all. Iwata stressed this sentiment years before the NX even was announced. Kimishima isn't more focused at all. He's just following what Iwata set in motion.



Frogger on 29 April 2016

Q11. While the forecasted sales for the WiiU this fiscal year are extremely weak, NX contributions to profitability seem to be included appearing to be numbers showing that, "We have some confidence in the NX, which will start with a sprint." Do you believe that the new NX will be able to cover for the decline of the WiiU?

A11. We have forecast WiiU sales of 800,000 units for this fiscal year, a decline from 2.4m units last fiscal year. In terms of what will cover for it, essentially, the NX and smart device businesses will be central, and also, the download content business is included.

Interesting how he isolated the downloadable content business at the end as something that will make up for the lack of Wii U sales.

I. Wonder. Why.

Lol, jk. I don't actually think this hints at anything, but it'll make Rol cranky sooooooooo.



Intrinsic on 29 April 2016
spemanig said:
"We are planning for it to be a platform that will be played for a long time."

Duh.

Also, here's something important and obvious - NX will negatively effect Wii U sales buy not 3DS sales. Why? Because they're releasing the console form factor first. Not some weird in-between hybrid. A console that will succeed the Wii U and not the 3DS.

The platform is what isn't a "simple replacement" because it replaces both. That's it. Nothing more. Nothing less. All that is saying is that the platform will be unified.

Can't wait until all the questions are out.

The way I see it is that Nintendo beloved there are at least 40M people out there willing to buy a Nintendo handheld console. So the best thing to do is make a handheld with a "home unit" included. or a console with a "handheld" included.  So basically one box, but two platforms.