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Snoopy said:
KungKras said:
I thought you were gonna say that NX was going to use always online DRM.

Almost gave me a heart attack.

Actually it was a 24 hour online check up. Which would stop used games which means publishers and developers will be more successful.

And kill retro gaming forever.

Fuck that.



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NX will be coming out in 2017. The Wii U will have been out over 5 years.

But short console cycles are never a good thing. Ever.

Just ask PS4 Neo and Xbox 1.5.



KungKras said:
Snoopy said:

Actually it was a 24 hour online check up. Which would stop used games which means publishers and developers will be more successful.

And kill retro gaming forever.

Fuck that.

Or the they would just release an update that unlocks the system after so many years if people just sat back and think about it.



Snoopy said:
KungKras said:
I thought you were gonna say that NX was going to use always online DRM.

Almost gave me a heart attack.

Actually it was a 24 hour online check up. Which would stop used games which means publishers and developers will be more successful.

Are you trying to suggest that us paying more for games and losing an option of buying them as a good thing?

Sony have made a fairly great way of stopping the sale of their games pre owned this gen so far for me, the PSN price of games has been fairly good in terms of reduction after launch prices and sales for even major titles makes them often cheaper to buy digitally rather than going to the gamestop or CEX here.

That said the option is still there for pre owned games if I want to pick up something like Fifa from last year which EA are very against reducing but places like Gamestop sell off for €3-4 each because to fans of Fifa they are considered worthless, but to EA they are a very cheap option for someone to play almost the exact same game for 20 times less.

Either way... Suggesting it's a positive thing that we would have lost a method for buying/selling games... Shame.



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"Microsoft received alot of criticism when the Xbox 360 launched just four years after the OG Xbox launched.

 

Nintendo is doing the same thing and the criticism is there but not as much.

 

Why is that?"

 

Because thats the way Nintendo fanboys are, to them Nintendo can do no wrong, so they aint gonna b*tch about it. And becuase of all the Sony haters out there (like Xbo fanboys, PC and Nintendo fanboys) will look for anything to put down and bad mouth Sony (Im not saying there also isnt alo of MS hating fanboys too). Whereas the same group of haters will give Nintendo a pass for the same thing. Its hypocrisy

 

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Snoopy said:
KungKras said:

And kill retro gaming forever.

Fuck that.

Or the they would just release an update that unlocks the system after so many years if people just sat back and think about it.

If you think companies can be trusted to do that you're very naive.



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Ganoncrotch said:
Snoopy said:

Actually it was a 24 hour online check up. Which would stop used games which means publishers and developers will be more successful.

Are you trying to suggest that us paying more for games and losing an option of buying them as a good thing?

Sony have made a fairly great way of stopping the sale of their games pre owned this gen so far for me, the PSN price of games has been fairly good in terms of reduction after launch prices and sales for even major titles makes them often cheaper to buy digitally rather than going to the gamestop or CEX here.

That said the option is still there for pre owned games if I want to pick up something like Fifa from last year which EA are very against reducing but places like Gamestop sell off for €3-4 each because to fans of Fifa they are considered worthless, but to EA they are a very cheap option for someone to play almost the exact same game for 20 times less.

Either way... Suggesting it's a positive thing that we would have lost a method for buying/selling games... Shame.

Two reasons why I wanted online checkup.

Price : Do you want to know why steam has all those awesome game sales that us console users get jealous about (admit it)? Because there is no used games from gamestop, walmart, bestbuy, ect to under cut those games in price. Used games are part of the reason why it takes a while for games to go down in price. If the game publisher lowers their games price, gamestop will just undercut them. So publishers have no choice but to keep the games price as high as they can for as long as they can. Publishers won't mind lowering their games price if there is some kind of drm because they know all the money the gamer spends on the game will go to them and no one else pretty much (outside of a few fees of course).

Games: We are getting ripped off in this department this generation. We are not getting many new ips. It is hard for a publisher to justify spending millions of dollars on a AAA new ip game. If they can guarantee that all sales will go to the publishers, they may take more chances on new ips. We all know a lot of people buy games they are not sure about when it is used later down the road. This mean publishers get nothing and they can't make a sequal to the game or won't take much chances anymore.  This is the worse generation overall in terms of games in the last 6 generations.



KungKras said:
Snoopy said:

Or the they would just release an update that unlocks the system after so many years if people just sat back and think about it.

If you think companies can be trusted to do that you're very naive.

It will actually benefit Microsoft more than anyone else. By doing this, people will buy more games for the system and increase the likelyhood of them buying the next xbox system if it has backwards compatability. 



Snoopy said:
Ganoncrotch said:

Are you trying to suggest that us paying more for games and losing an option of buying them as a good thing?

Sony have made a fairly great way of stopping the sale of their games pre owned this gen so far for me, the PSN price of games has been fairly good in terms of reduction after launch prices and sales for even major titles makes them often cheaper to buy digitally rather than going to the gamestop or CEX here.

That said the option is still there for pre owned games if I want to pick up something like Fifa from last year which EA are very against reducing but places like Gamestop sell off for €3-4 each because to fans of Fifa they are considered worthless, but to EA they are a very cheap option for someone to play almost the exact same game for 20 times less.

Either way... Suggesting it's a positive thing that we would have lost a method for buying/selling games... Shame.

Two reasons why I wanted online checkup.

Price : Do you want to know why steam has all those awesome game sales that us console users get jealous about (admit it)? Because there is no used games from gamestop, walmart, bestbuy, ect to under cut those games in price. Used games are part of the reason why it takes a while for games to go down in price. If the game publisher lowers their games price, gamestop will just undercut them. So publishers have no choice but to keep the games price as high as they can for as long as they can. Publishers won't mind lowering their games price if there is some kind of drm because they know all the money the gamer spends on the game will go to them and no one else pretty much (outside of a few fees of course).

Games: We are getting ripped off in this department this generation. We are not getting many new ips. It is hard for a publisher to justify spending millions of dollars on a AAA new ip game. If they can guarantee that all sales will go to the publishers, they may take more chances on new ips. We all know a lot of people buy games they are not sure about when it is used later down the road. This mean publishers get nothing and they can't make a sequal to the game or won't take much chances anymore.  This is the worse generation overall in terms of games in the last 6 generations.

Literally giving away all control of the products in the hope that game devs reward you paying more by offering you a sale later?

Also PC games still launch at more or less the same price as console titles, suggesting that they become cheaper months later in steam sales is the same as saying you can get last years console games pre owned or in sales for a fraction of the cost, The Heavy Rain/Two souls was €19.99, imo Sony sales on PSN are fighting the pre owned market by undercutting that with these titles, also unlike steam sales it isn't titles from 5 or so years ago, I mean, sure being able to pick up Super Meat Boy and Fez for a euro or two is great... but who doesn't have those by now?

But yeah, like I said, I wouldn't trust a company to give decent sales after they force the removal of alternatives to buying games directly from their online store or new copies, but I am perfectly happy to buy games directly and new when the company just strives to make the titles a good deal firstly and cut out gamestop by just keeping their prices in line with what customers would be willing to pay for them digitally.



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Edit  - Site running like shit caused a double post! My bad.



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