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NX or Wii U

NX 80 40.40%
 
Wii U 13 6.57%
 
Ps4. 105 53.03%
 
Total:198
hoala said:
Ljink96 said:
I think Nintendo knows they're taking a gamble by not taking NX to E3. They must know that. And for them to know that and still have faith in NX...it has to be one damn good piece of hardware.

Nintendo also had faith in the wii u.

And even with bad wii u sales they made decision like: No Voice Chat in Splatoon, Dual Screen Star Fox crap, Amiibo festival and so much more. 

Maybe THEY think its awesome, but I doubt it will be that great for the rest of the world.

Any company has faith in their console but coming after a crap shoot that was Wii U, I think they're looking to change their ways. Nintendo doesn't always make the best decisions but some of their most successful work, mainly thanks to Iwata, was some of their weirdest concepts. Motion control and Dual Screen gaming. Both were heavily ridiculed at release but both sold over 100 Million units. Hopefully the Wii U kicked them in the butt enough to make them want to compete again. And for the record, I saw that Nintendo didn't have as much faith in the Wii U because of the poor 3rd party support, they didn't know how to effectively market it, they didn't know how they would use 2 gamepads but tehy still announced dual support and have yet to use it, I could tell that they weren't too faithful in it. But you can't pull a SEGA and jump ship the second things go wrong. That makes the problem worse.

Amiibo festival was more of a filler to most likely put something on Wii U while they make NX games, voice chat for splatoon...it's not a deal breaker. The game is fun and it follows Nintendo's family values. I wouldn't want my kid playing splatoon getting exposed to other corrupt vulgar people either. Star Fox...I have no remedy for that.

To sum it up, Nintendo had to grin and bear the Wii U even though their first party games were amazing. Mario Kart 8 has like almost a 75% attach rate...but the console sold poorly. Let's hope Nintendo learns from their mistake and releases something that is different enough to garner attention from gamers of all types. That's their only hope at this point if they want to stay in home console hardware.



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Zoombael said:

"- Release in march / miss holiday season"

It's not that easy. We have two competitors and one of them has a very long stride. Especially in this year. October comes PSVR and a bunch of games (third and first). A new console with barely a fraction of the attraction during holiday season? I don't think that's a good idea. Rather wait, release during winter/spring - good season for games too -, gain traction and build up library.

Not that it won't flop though.

I doubt Nintendo will be in direct competition to PSVR and co.

Nintendo main audience are children. Check their first party lineup, 90% cartoony rated e games. (which are alot fun even for adults dont get me wrong).

Those 8 year old children wont get PSVR. And they wont get an NX in march, they could get one as a xmas present.



Nintendo does not compete against Playstation or anyone since the Wii. So there is nothing to flop.



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vivster said:
Nintendo does not compete against Playstation or anyone since the Wii. So there is nothing to flop.

They say that, but you shouldnt believe everything you hear...



KLXVER said:
COKTOE said:

- Release mid cycle. This point stands out to me even though. If consoles continue to evolve the way they seem to, in terms of upgraded models being released mid cycle, this will matter less. But it will still matter IMO. Being out of step with the competition, is not a good thing. Especially when you are the one playing catch-up. It won't be long after the NX is released the Sony and MS will unveil systems that blow it out of the water.

So youre saying that this gen will last until 2021?

No. I realize I'm taking some liberties with the "mid-cycle" term from the op, but my point is still the same. We shall see what happens. Hope they can pull this off.



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KLXVER said:
vivster said:
Nintendo does not compete against Playstation or anyone since the Wii. So there is nothing to flop.

They say that, but you shouldnt believe everything you hear...

I say that and I believe everything I say. Because to compete you need a competitive product.



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vivster said:
KLXVER said:

They say that, but you shouldnt believe everything you hear...

I say that and I believe everything I say. Because to compete you need a competitive product.

Sony are targeting people, so who are Nintendo targeting then...?



Turkish said:
Makes sense.

They skipped the holidays, confirms they're not confident enough in their product that it can compete with the onslaught of games and PS4 marketing in that all important period. Never has there a new home console launched in Q1.

PS2 came out in march... in Japan.

But hey I'm right, you are wrong.

PS: Be more specific.

PS2: This could be an omen.. NX coming out on the same quarter as the PS2... The true PS2 successor!

PS3: I hope not, I really want Nintendo to die for delaying Zelda!



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Seriously, there's like three "The NX Is D00M3D!!!!111" threads on the main page right now.  What gives?  Just because they're not doing a full blown E3 presentation (even though it's not coming out until '17) and they're not launching it right in the middle of the crowded holiday season (which only started becoming a thing during the 6th gen with the Xbox and GC), that means that the NX is automatically doomed?

Wii U had its full unveiling @ E3 and launched in the middle of the holday season... how'd that turn out again?



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Anfebious said:
Turkish said:
Makes sense.

They skipped the holidays, confirms they're not confident enough in their product that it can compete with the onslaught of games and PS4 marketing in that all important period. Never has there a new home console launched in Q1.

PS2 came out in march... in Japan.

But hey I'm right, you are wrong.

PS: Be more specific.

PS2: This could be an omen.. NX coming out on the same quarter as the PS2... The true PS2 successor!

PS3: I hope not, I really want Nintendo to die for delaying Zelda!

Worldwide bruh, PS4 also came out in Q1 Japan.