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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - NX very likely to flop....here is why: (my opinion)

 

NX or Wii U

NX 80 40.40%
 
Wii U 13 6.57%
 
Ps4. 105 53.03%
 
Total:198

- Release in march / miss holiday season

- No e3 presence

- Teased as something "completly new"

- Nintendos recent decissions (Star Fox dual screen force, Splatoon map rotation and no voice chat, Amiibos) Its not like Nintendo is evolving in anything i like, to be honest they are getting worse and worse imo.

- Release mid cycle (Ps4 will already have games like: Witcher 3, Final Fantasy 15, Metal Gear Solid 5, Batman Arkham Knight, Uncharted 4, Horizon Zero Dawn, Bloodborne, Dark Souls III, Battlefront, The Last Guardian, Dragen Age Inquisition, Destiny, The Division, Tons of fifa, cods, madden, assassin creed games, watchdog/watchdogs 2, Mirrors Edge Catalyst, Tomb Raider, Mass Effect Andromeda, GTA 5, Deus EX Mankind divided, No Mans Sky, Street Fighter 5, Tekken 7, Mortal Kombat X, Ratchet and Clank, Tons of great ps3 remasters.).

And what will the NX have in 2017? Zelda, Mario and metroid if we are really lucky. Sorry but thats not like a good competition.

 

I dont think it will be a tradional console. At best it will be something similar to the wii and adress Casuals. I doubt they will get good third party support (third partys hate "completly new" features they have to use, make porting more difficult).

The wii u was planned to get great third party support. That didnt happned, why?

Because of bad third party title sales and poor console sales on general.

With a march release nintendo will miss the holiday season which is extremly important for them (on of their biggest customer groups are children, they cant buy a console in march but get one for xmas).

These "bad" sales will overshadow at least the first half year of the NX => which makes it to a "wii u2". bad Third Party sales will stop third partys to develop/port games for NX, no third party support will stop people from buying the console.Doom loop.

 

 

Game droughts:

Even if Nintendo manages to get alot great games at launch and in first year, thats just possible because of the lacking wii u library.

In March 2017 Nintendo themself will released almost no big games for wii u for the past 2 years (only Mario Maker and Splatoon that are both more then 1,5 years away and MAYBE Paper Mario (dont know who is developing that).

All other games got made by external studios: Pokken (Bandai Namco); Zelda TPHD (Tantalus), Star Fox (Platinum Games)

If the NX is even more powerfull then the wii u, game development will even take more time and ressources. Games like Battlefront look extremly content lacking because so much ressources went into the graphics. Nintendo just have small teams, they cant make many of those games per year.

Nintendo also didnt hired many new developer for NX. The teams are still pretty much the same. Without third party support, NX will most likely get even less game then wii u.

 

Also:

Many Wii U Owners arnt satisfied. Well even many Wii Owners werent 100% satisfied with the console. Many old owner will most likely not buy a new nintendo system just again. Sony did it right with the ps3: Take a loss with the ps3 but satisfy the consumer. And now the ps4 is selling like hotcakes.

Thoughts?



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PS3 had third party support and would be dead if had to rely on 1st party alone.

 

the doom loop is real. 

 

Battlefront is is lacking content because EA has low ceilings. 

 

If Nintendo draws all their strength and unleashes megatons on content they will have people's attention. 



We don't even know what it is yet... It could be a console/handheld or even a sex toy... I would wait to at least see what they got lined up before saying it will be a flop...



                  

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Captain_Yuri said:

We don't even know what it is yet... It could be a console/handheld or even a sex toy... I would wait to at least see what they got lined up before saying it will be a flop...

zelda can run on it. So it needs at least a screen or supports a screen, sex toy is unlikely ;)



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hoala said:
Captain_Yuri said:

We don't even know what it is yet... It could be a console/handheld or even a sex toy... I would wait to at least see what they got lined up before saying it will be a flop...

zelda can run on it. So it needs at least a screen or supports a screen, sex toy is unlikely ;)

You sir... Greatly underestimate what sex toys can have these days :P



                  

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snyps said:
PS3 had third party support and would be dead if had to rely on 1st party alone.

In the first years it didnt had that good support. Sony just invested Money in marketing, made the system cheaper, hired more developer, made good exclusives and so on to help the system selling and stop third partys to jump off board.



hoala said:
snyps said:
PS3 had third party support and would be dead if had to rely on 1st party alone.

In the first years it didnt had that good support. Sony just invested Money in marketing, made the system cheaper, hired more developer, made good exclusives and so on to help the system selling and stop third partys to jump off board.

PS3 never lacked third parties. Some games were delayed because the system was difficult to port and optimize. But the thirds were there the whole time. 



Ka-pi96 said:
Captain_Yuri said:

We don't even know what it is yet... It could be a console/handheld or even a sex toy... I would wait to at least see what they got lined up before saying it will be a flop...

Some people might like floppy sex toys though



                  

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I think Nintendo knows they're taking a gamble by not taking NX to E3. They must know that. And for them to know that and still have faith in NX...it has to be one damn good piece of hardware.