No one of those games are not nearly popular like games I mentioned.

Well... was shenmue on the dreamcast popular as you say? Is it not part of its legacy and generated a huge wave of excitement? This is about the legacy, the games that will be fondly remembered. I don't think its meant to be "wich ones sold X millions".

How? I'm not saying they aren't good game by the way. But honestly, what big new ideas have either of them brought? 

But the root of all that is that they felt they had to do something new once again because they struck gold with the Wii. The Wiimote came about because they had a vision for a different kind of game and it was created out of necessity to accomplish that vision. The Wii U gamepad is the opposite, they came up with gamepad and then thought "Okay... now we gotta create games that use it..."

One is the first competitive Nintendo game, some would consider ever (being they consider Smash a party game). It certainly is Nintendo's first real jump into online multiplayer. The other is the first creator game of a major ip.

One is the first competitive Nintendo game, some would consider ever (being they consider Smash a party game). It certainly is Nintendo's first real jump into online multiplayer. The other is the first creator game of a major ip.

Yep.

Its arsebackwards.

Hopefully the entire concept for the NX isnt like the one for the Wii U.

Thoughtless design is just bad all around. It wouldnt have been so bad if they could have reached lower price points though.

My hopes & dreams are still on NX being:

A cartridge based home console that can play the same games (cartridges) the handheld does, just upscaled in resolution ect.

This way the have the same games on both systems, and wont have to split their focus for game developement, and thus avoid game droughts and dependancy on 3rd party.

Games that I mentioned will better remembered than games you mentioned. Reality is that only small number of people was executed with Bayonetta 2, Xenoblade and Pokken Tournament compared with Splatoon, Mario Kart 8 and Mario Maker.

I think Splatoon has the potential to be one of the biggest ... if not the biggest franchise in Japan some day. The fact that it outsold things like Smash Bros. and Mario Kart 8 and NSMBU as a brand new franchise is kinda ... scary.

Feels a lot like Monster Hunter when it was first busting out.

Depends on how the NX goes (though how the NX goes may be tied heavily to Splatoon 2) I guess.

That isnt the point. Its not these or others will be the most. Its wich ones are remembered fondly. Good games fall under that category. It's not about numbers, its about quality and exclusivity.