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Hello everyone!

 

I just want to say: CA: Civil War is, indeed, the best Marvel movie to date, perhaps the best super hero movie ever! Everything works in this movie: plot, timing, action.

I won't spoil but I have to say some things: the airport scene is so much bigger than trailers/teasers showed. I dare to say it IS the greatest action sequence in a superhero movie of all f***g time; they put A LOT of scenes right from the comics and we have a REAL SPIDERMAN

So, to finish without any spoilers:

THE GOOD

-BEST SPIDER MAN EVER MADE

-BLACK PANTHER

-BARON ZEMO

-AIRPORT SCENE

-They changed a little the "style" of "Avengers" movies

-ANT MAN

-It was indeed about Registration Act but...

THE BAD

-Too much Bucky

-Too much "Avengers" (well, Captain America movie btw)

-Too little Vision + Wanda

-Bad CGI in a important scene

-I know they couldn't do exactly the same to comics, but I missed some chars (Yes Daredevil is one of them)

-The End (here is a tricky one! Is not what you think... at all! I mean, it was a bad end? Fuck, no! But I didn't like)

 

 

If I had to give a score: 9/10



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Is it out already?



You know it deserves the GOTY.

Come join The 2018 Obscure Game Monthly Review Thread.

Just a many negatives as positives and you still give a 9.

hope you don't have an imdb profile/ or a certified RT reviewer.

Movie looks awful. Its clearly just paid for hype which explains the 98% the ''critics'' aka fanboys have given it on RT.



I saw it last night and was honestly crushingly disappointed. I can see why the general audience would enjoy it, but for me, knowing the actual Civil War storyline this was quite sad.

The whole movie is a damn jokefest, with only brief moments of seriousness sprinkled in.

The central conflict builds around Bucky, which is stupid, because he's simply not significant enough to have earth's heroes go to war over him.

Captain America's team is honestly vastly outmatched, but are made OP because hey it's a Cap movie, so he needs to look good. The only true threat on his team, Scarlett Witch, is for some reason left alone during the entire airport fight so she can assist every single member of his team without interference. Vision probably should be fighting her, but instead he's off screen being useless. At this point I'm pretty sure his character was created solely to die in Infinity War, since Marvel refuses to kill anyone of any real import.

Captain America comes across as a huge fucking asshole in this entire movie. He considers himself above the United Nations, is willing to beat on half his friends and make the other half outlaws to free Bucky (despite the fact that he himself knows he's a danger to others), and worst of all knows a little something major spoilery I won't mention that is absolutely unforgivable to not tell your friend. He's just a selfish, arrogant douche in pretty much the whole movie.

The villain, which they didn't even need to have, because the whole point of the Civil War story is two opposing ideologies between heroes, is once again weak, pointless, and cliche. Plus his "plan" relies entirely on random luck.



I have to say, as a whole I'm getting fed up with Marvel's movies now. They just treat everything like a giant joke. These are supposed to be their big guns, with real stakes on the line, and yet a single episode of their "Street level" heroes in their Netflix shows feels like it has 100x more important shit going on. I mean it's perfectly fine, great even, to have those properties like Guardians of the Galaxy, Spiderman, and Antman where things are more light-hearted and the overall tone is pretty funny. It makes sense for those characters. But you can't just throw a movie like Civil War on screen and have everyone aside from Black Panther crack one liners every two minutes and act like it's all just a big game to everyone. It's just stupid.



foodfather said:
Just a many negatives as positives and you still give a 9.

hope you don't have an imdb profile/ or a certified RT reviewer.

Movie looks awful. Its clearly just paid for hype which explains the 98% the ''critics'' aka fanboys have given it on RT.

Not even close. There is more good things, but... spoilers



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It is top 5 superhero movies of all time for sure. Almost everything works well. I can't wait to see Russo Brothers take on Avengers besed on what I've seen. Truly awesome.



I'll have to wait to see it for myself but it is sounding great.



Angelus said:

I saw it last night and was honestly crushingly disappointed. I can see why the general audience would enjoy it, but for me, knowing the actual Civil War storyline this was quite sad.

The whole movie is a damn jokefest, with only brief moments of seriousness sprinkled in.

The central conflict builds around Bucky, which is stupid, because he's simply not significant enough to have earth's heroes go to war over him.

Captain America's team is honestly vastly outmatched, but are made OP because hey it's a Cap movie, so he needs to look good. The only true threat on his team, Scarlett Witch, is for some reason left alone during the entire airport fight so she can assist every single member of his team without interference. Vision probably should be fighting her, but instead he's off screen being useless. At this point I'm pretty sure his character was created solely to die in Infinity War, since Marvel refuses to kill anyone of any real import.

Captain America comes across as a huge fucking asshole in this entire movie. He considers himself above the United Nations, is willing to beat on half his friends and make the other half outlaws to free Bucky (despite the fact that he himself knows he's a danger to others), and worst of all knows a little something major spoilery I won't mention that is absolutely unforgivable to not tell your friend. He's just a selfish, arrogant douche in pretty much the whole movie.

The villain, which they didn't even need to have, because the whole point of the Civil War story is two opposing ideologies between heroes, is once again weak, pointless, and cliche. Plus his "plan" relies entirely on random luck.



I have to say, as a whole I'm getting fed up with Marvel's movies now. They just treat everything like a giant joke. These are supposed to be their big guns, with real stakes on the line, and yet a single episode of their "Street level" herores in their Netflix shows feels like it has 100x more important shit going on. I mean it's perfectly fine, great even, to have those properties like Guardians of the Galaxy, Spiderman, and Antman where things are more light-hearted and the overall tone is pretty funny. It makes sense for those characters. But you can't just throw a movie like Civil War on screen and have everyone aside from Black Panther crack one liners every two minutes and act like it's all just a big game to everyone. It's just stupid.

This was my big fear - that this movie is a quip-fest. I want some variety in my superhero movies. The MCU is just so... one-note. I refuse to pay full price for another samey movie.



Angelus said:

I saw it last night and was honestly crushingly disappointed. I can see why the general audience would enjoy it, but for me, knowing the actual Civil War storyline this was quite sad.

The whole movie is a damn jokefest, with only brief moments of seriousness sprinkled in.

The central conflict builds around Bucky, which is stupid, because he's simply not significant enough to have earth's heroes go to war over him.

Captain America's team is honestly vastly outmatched, but are made OP because hey it's a Cap movie, so he needs to look good. The only true threat on his team, Scarlett Witch, is for some reason left alone during the entire airport fight so she can assist every single member of his team without interference. Vision probably should be fighting her, but instead he's off screen being useless. At this point I'm pretty sure his character was created solely to die in Infinity War, since Marvel refuses to kill anyone of any real import.

Captain America comes across as a huge fucking asshole in this entire movie. He considers himself above the United Nations, is willing to beat on half his friends and make the other half outlaws to free Bucky (despite the fact that he himself knows he's a danger to others), and worst of all knows a little something major spoilery I won't mention that is absolutely unforgivable to not tell your friend. He's just a selfish, arrogant douche in pretty much the whole movie.

The villain, which they didn't even need to have, because the whole point of the Civil War story is two opposing ideologies between heroes, is once again weak, pointless, and cliche. Plus his "plan" relies entirely on random luck.



I have to say, as a whole I'm getting fed up with Marvel's movies now. They just treat everything like a giant joke. These are supposed to be their big guns, with real stakes on the line, and yet a single episode of their "Street level" heroes in their Netflix shows feels like it has 100x more important shit going on. I mean it's perfectly fine, great even, to have those properties like Guardians of the Galaxy, Spiderman, and Antman where things are more light-hearted and the overall tone is pretty funny. It makes sense for those characters. But you can't just throw a movie like Civil War on screen and have everyone aside from Black Panther crack one liners every two minutes and act like it's all just a big game to everyone. It's just stupid.

 

THANK YOU! I was coming to the site just to start a long ranting post about the movie and you covered much of what I had in mind. I have just come from seeing it.

Don't want to be rude, my good friend Fabian, but the movie sucks. Are there some good action scenes? Yes, of course. But the plot is so insanely bad that it blows the whole thing appart.



Angelus said:

I saw it last night and was honestly crushingly disappointed. I can see why the general audience would enjoy it, but for me, knowing the actual Civil War storyline this was quite sad.

The villain, which they didn't even need to have, because the whole point of the Civil War story is two opposing ideologies between heroes, is once again weak, pointless, and cliche. Plus his "plan" relies entirely on random luck.

I have to say, as a whole I'm getting fed up with Marvel's movies now.

A good post. A few comments here, the first one, they never could do the book justice. Although the book wasn't the best in my view and Cap's side in that was better portrayed, the flawed ending was to be desired anyway. And without mutants the registration becomes less significant in my view, even if they didn't play a major role in the comic, it was really another attempt at the idea of 'Registration' and mutants did that already.

On the second part, Winter Soldier did have the Winter Soldier in it but the film wasn't actually about that in the end was it? Same for this. I mean if Age of Ultron was like the comic well, everyone would have been confused.

I'm tired of waiting, the Avenger's films are a long way off and the longer that goes on the older these actors are becoming. An issue they have.

 

on topic,

It was good but best? No, Winter Soldier still in the best one made in my view. It got the balance right. GotG was just funny.



Hmm, pie.