I hope the price cut the normal PS4 gets when the PS4 neo is out, is big.
Sony need to accerate sales... I wanna see the PS4 go over 140m.

Lol, so you are stacking the deck in the PS4's favour, since the first three quarters of the PS2's lifespan it was only out in Japan.

If we re not doing Launch time to date, and sales to date based on launch time.

Then the stat we end up getting outta it isnt what we re looking for (is the PS4 behinde the sales curve compaired to the PS2).

I didnt write the "rules" or stack anything in the PS4s favor (its not my fault the PS2 launched 9months early in japan).

Im just saying if you pick and choose what statistics count, you can make up any kinda conclusion you want. The results are kinda meaningless then.

Yes sales rate, if you only count World wide, the PS2 would be selling faster (it had 20m+ years), and this year was only a 17.7m for the PS4.

Doesnt take a rocket scientist to figur that out.

But if your talking about sales rates (launch date to date, and sales over it) the PS4 probably isnt behinde the PS2 yet.

As others have mentioned, PS2 was only available in Japan at first and launched worldwide later on. However we can compare the two if we start from March 31 2001:

March 31, 2001= 10.61

March 31, 2003= 51.20

That means that PS2 shipped 40,59 million units in just two years, without counting initial sales at launch prior to March 31 2001. That's just as much as PS4's total number including sales before March 31 2014. So it's certain PS2 is ahead now.

Also to comment on your other post i did not include Dreamcast bcause that was already dead in the water after two years and Wii-U is what Gamecube was back then(a little lower in sales). So PS2 really did have less competition, especially in the U.S.

Yes the PS2 sold at a faster rate (doing 20m+ years) compaired to this years 17.7m

You cant just choose to ignore the first 9months of its life though.

If you take 2years and 4months of sales for both, chances are the PS4 is still ahead.

Yes thats only because it didnt launch 9months ahead of time in japan only.

However it still doesnt change the fact.

PS4 sales are still ahead of the PS2s in the same time periode (2years4months).

However it looks like the PS4 isnt selling at as fast a rate as the PS2 was.

Which means eventually the PS2 will be ahead of the PS4.

What? I'm telling you that you should align the launches of different regions. And given that we got per region shipments of the PS2, I can easily give you the number for the PS2 when it in each region had been out for as long as the PS4 has been in each region. Just take the first 9 quarters for Japan, 10 for North America and Europe, add them together and voila, you have a way fairer comparison than what you are suggesting.

Heck, I'll do it right now.

PS2 First 9 quarters in Japan (since the PS4 launched later in Japan, I'll align this one too): 9.6 million

First 10 quarters in Europe: 16.34 million

First 10 quarters in America: 22.2 million

Total worldwide, launches aligned by region: 48.14 million

And the gap will only grow. This is the only fair comparison you can make. This way, the consoles have been out for an equal amount of time in each region, and the PS2 is way ahead, and the gap will only grow in the coming quarters.

It really is not if we look at worldwide release. Even if you want to disregard all that and still look at the time period only, you should look at each region individually. And while PS4 might be doing comparable numbers to PS2 in Europe or or even be a little ahead, it definitely is not the same case in the U.S. and no where near in Japan.

I've summed up the numbers when you align each region in the above post. This way we get the numbers for when the PS2 has been out for just as long as the PS4 has in each individual region, and the PS2 is unsurprisingly far ahead. Given that we know that, it's kinda pointless to talk about "first 2 years and 4 months from when it launched in the first region it launched in".

Yeah i saw, you beat me to it by a few seconds. Numbers are clear indeed, though as i said it's still a pretty close race in Europe(i think PS4 should be around 16M shipped by now). So it's mostly stiffer competition from Xbox One in the U.S. and the decline of the console market in Japan.

We will have to see what PS VR will do but i don't see PS4 getting ahead anymore.

Yep... no more than 22M. But I do agree that there is a big chance of being lower than 20M. Just saying that either way it wouldn't matter. X1 is high enough on USA to have support and is far enough from PS4 that we won't care.