It's just a difference in effort level. Sony/MS like them or not work pretty hard to make sure their consumers who like the type of content they make, basically get what they want and are generally kept happy.

With Nintendo? The attitude is more like "we're Nintendo, fuck you we do whatever we want and you should be OK with that", lol ... which is just jarring when you compare the two.

Sony fans? Probably getting a fucking fantastic E3 this year with tons of great games. MS I'm sure will put up a good fight too.

Nintendo fans? LOL. All we can do is look back at E3 from two years ago and reminsence. I think in the last 5 years, Nintendo's had maybe 1 E3 (2014) where the fan base really went away feeling happy and well catered to.

Nintendo has like this bizarre almost advasarial relationship with their own fans.

It was already dead, anyway. Games barely released, so it was inevitable.

Yeah, the secrecy is shit. It doesn't build anticipation, it builds irritation, impatience, and the perception that there's nothing to be excited for. It's 2016, consumers don't like being kept in the dark. They like transparency.

A company like Sony is successful in the console sector because they actively seek to meet the needs of their audience. Nintendo, on the other hand, aggressively ignores what consumers want. They give their fanbase the silent treatment, they make games nobody asked for, they handicap their own games for the sake of being "different", and they regularly leave gaping holes in their release schedule. And where has it gotten them? A home console that won't even outsell the Vita or the Gamecube.

I jsut started watching more tv since the end of wii life instead lol. the things you realised you had missed when u play games too much...

I understand a reasonable amount of secrecy and discretion, but with Nintendo it really is a borderline psychotic obsession on their part.

NX is coming out even with this delay in less than a year but I know more about Putin's off-shore cash accounts thanks to the Panama Paper's than anything about the NX.

Having such a ridiculous culture of keeping your own fan base away from you at arm's length, treating every little morsel of information like it's something your fans need to wrestle out of you and failing to engage with your own consumer base with any type of forwardness is just ... it's exhausting. Being a Nintendo feels ... exhausting. I don't think Sony or MS fans would ever understand it, both Sony or MS would out of business so fast if they tried to run their game divisions the way Nintendo does. 

Nintendo gets away with it because of the brilliance of a handful of amazing development teams that have and the powerful draw of nostalgia.

I mean, y'know how about throwing Zelda fans a bone and giving them 2 minutes of new footage for Zelda. Can't even do 2 minutes? Some of these people have been waiting 2 freaking years from when you said you would launch this game. I mean c'mon. That part of it is really frustrating. And it's like this with virtually every game.

Xenoblade X? Can't talk about it for like 2 years. Yoshi? Can't talk about it. Zelda? Coming out this year, oh wait not coming out for 2 years, here's one piece of art work. We have a new Pokemon game coming out in less than a year but we can't show you any game footage. Not even 2 seconds. Like fuck Nintendo, we're your fans, we're not the enemy, we want reasons to be excited about your products.

Not angry just disappointing they didn't move to NX quicker.

I think part of that mess is Iwata, had another crazy idea for it and when he died the new guy probably reversed some of the design ideas or beefing up the hardware specs.

Then PS4K shit happens and Nintendo are probably second guessed launching against it as competition.

I'm annoyed at the delay of Zelda. That was a waste of time of announcing it years ago.

Exactly, it would have cost them nothing to release proper gameplay trailers for Zelda at last E3 and again in December to keep fans satiated. But no, it wasnt enough to delay the game to 2016 and then again to 2017, they had to rub salt in the wound by showing us nothing but a 13 second clip of an area we'd already seen for a year and half.

Why on earth they think it's a good idea to let fans stew for months with nothing to play or get excited for is anyone's guess. If they think radio silence builds hype, they are badly mistaken.

It certainly builds intrigue. I have lost count of how many NX threads have been created at the mere sight of new tiny info just because we don't know anything about it.

If that also makes some people angry, well...can't say I can blame them.

Intrigue is one thing, treating every damn game like it's a matter of life and death if any slight detail leaks is just ridiculous.

Which games that Nintendo makes do other developers even copy? Who copied Skyward Sword? *crickets* Who's making yarn-based 2D cartoon platformers? How many developers are making anything like Animal Crossing? Worried the Call of Duty guys are going to rip off Splatoon?

Not everything needs to be treated like it's a top secret matter of national security. The world is not going to end Nintendo if you show even 10 seconds of Pokemon Sun/Moon, a game that you say is launching in what? 7 months? You can't possibly allow your own fans to even see a few seconds of footage?

Like who is this really helping?