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Cobretti2 said:
hoala said:

not everybody is a fan. 90% of all customers are just normal customers. Sure fans will get whatever nintendo is releasing but normal customers will probl think about switching to ps4 where they could already play games like witcher 3, final fantasy 15 and co THIS YEAR instead of waiting, waiting and waiting. And its not like those games (ff15, w3, uncharted 4, bloodborne) are inferior to the new zelda game. All those games are absolutly great titles.

Do you honestly think 90% of Wii U owner are normal customers? Wii U is probably 70% owned by Nintendo loyalists and 30% kids that who probably feel tortured by their parents with the Wii U, hence the shit numbers it has sold. Most normal customers didn't see any value in Wii U and jumped on PS4 this gen.

Yes.

70% nintendo loyalists is ridiculous. Here are some game sales (from this site) of wii u software. Games every Nintendo loyalists would most likely own.

Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze: 1,4 Mio

Pikmen 3: 1,06 Mio

Xenoblade X: 0,8 Mio

Zelda: Twilight Princess HD: 0,75 Mio

 

Here you have your "loyalist" Nintendo fans on Wii U. Around 1-1,5 Mio people (10%). 

 

Games like Mario, mario kart and splatoon are mainstream games, that got those high sale numbers.



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hoala said:
Cobretti2 said:

Do you honestly think 90% of Wii U owner are normal customers? Wii U is probably 70% owned by Nintendo loyalists and 30% kids that who probably feel tortured by their parents with the Wii U, hence the shit numbers it has sold. Most normal customers didn't see any value in Wii U and jumped on PS4 this gen.

Yes.

70% nintendo loyalists is ridiculous. Here are some game sales (from this site) of wii u software. Games every Nintendo loyalists would most likely own.

Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze: 1,4 Mio

Pikmen 3: 1,06 Mio

Xenoblade X: 0,8 Mio

Zelda: Twilight Princess HD: 0,75 Mio

 

Here you have your "loyalist" Nintendo fans on Wii U. Around 1-1,5 Mio people (10%). 

 

Games like Mario, mario kart and splatoon are mainstream games, that got those high sale numbers.

You are making the assumption that all Nintendo loyalists buy all their games, after all the evidence we seen people write on here oh i baught the Wii U for Zelda lol. They all have different tastes. The ony common between them is Mario

How is Mario, Mario Kart and Splatoon mainstream games? Mario is like the cornerstone of a Nintendo platform. Did we see a HUGE increate in console sales when these launched? NO because the console is dead to the regular consumer.  If Mario and Mario Kart were mainstream games more consoles would have sold.  The fact is the ocmpetition has a lot more games suited to the regular user that they want to play.



 

 

Cobretti2 said:

You are making the assumption that all Nintendo loyalists buy all their games, after all the evidence we seen people write on here oh i baught the Wii U for Zelda lol. They all have different tastes. The ony common between them is Mario

How is Mario, Mario Kart and Splatoon mainstream games? Mario is like the cornerstone of a Nintendo platform. Did we see a HUGE increate in console sales when these launched? NO because the console is dead to the regular consumer.  If Mario and Mario Kart were mainstream games more consoles would have sold.  The fact is the ocmpetition has a lot more games suited to the regular user that they want to play.

Yes every real hardcore Nintendo fan would had bought Donkey Kong as an example. Thats not an assumption, thats a fact. Show me a real Nintendo fan that didnt bought Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze on Wii U.

And Mario, Mario Kart and co ARE Mainstream. Those games sold 30 Mio units in Wii. Or do you wanna tell me there are 30 Mio Nintendo fans out there? 

Sale increase:

http://nintendoeverything.com/wii-u-hardware-sales-increased-666-in-uk-thanks-to-mario-kart-8/



hoala said:

Cobretti2 said:

You are making the assumption that all Nintendo loyalists buy all their games, after all the evidence we seen people write on here oh i baught the Wii U for Zelda lol. They all have different tastes. The ony common between them is Mario

How is Mario, Mario Kart and Splatoon mainstream games? Mario is like the cornerstone of a Nintendo platform. Did we see a HUGE increate in console sales when these launched? NO because the console is dead to the regular consumer.  If Mario and Mario Kart were mainstream games more consoles would have sold.  The fact is the ocmpetition has a lot more games suited to the regular user that they want to play.

Yes every real hardcore Nintendo fan would had bought Donkey Kong as an example. Thats not an assumption, thats a fact. Show me a real Nintendo fan that didnt bought Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze on Wii U.

And Mario, Mario Kart and co ARE Mainstream. Those games sold 30 Mio units in Wii. Or do you wanna tell me there are 30 Mio Nintendo fans out there? 

Sale increase:

http://nintendoeverything.com/wii-u-hardware-sales-increased-666-in-uk-thanks-to-mario-kart-8/

666% for like a few weeks is nothing when it is selling so little to begin with.

Yes Mario sold 30m+ on Wii but lets face it if those games were as mainstream as you think then people would be all over the Wii U. 

Wii Sports sold the console, Mario was just a game people bought in addition later on.