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Teeqoz on 27 April 2016
Puppyroach said:
AlfredoTurkey said:                             

Fixed.

I am not one to propose anything that takes rights away from anyone. This is why I am against this entire thing. As a parent, I feel my 10 year old girl shouldn't have to share a bathroom with a 35 year old man. "Trans-gender" is just a softer way of saying "make believe". I feel sorry for these people because they're obviously living a trapped life where they feel they're something they're not. I wouldn't want to be in their shoes and I totally sympothize with that. But the reality of it is, they AREN'T a different gender. They feel they are, but they're not. You're either born a man, or you're born a woman. No amount of cutting, clothes, lip stick or backwards baseball caps will change that. Why should their infliction stomp all over everyone else's freedoms and comforts? Do we allow people with bi-polar the freedom to cuss out their bosses when they're manic? How about cops? Can a bi-polar person punch a cop when they're feeling a mood shift? No? Then we shouldn't force little girls to share bathrooms with grown men just so these people can continue pretending to be something they're not. 

Whose rights to do society take away by not caring if transgendered people go into any restroom?

Your argument falls kind of flat when it comes to hermafrodites. People who are born with both biological genders put this issue at the forefront of what social gender compared to biological gender really is. There are also plenty of examples from other animals where males behave like females and vice versa. We all have elements of both genders in us, the rest is social constructs and biochemical processes.

And the example you give at the end of your argument is flawed, since a transgendered person does not affect another persons life physically in any way, while attacking a cop very much so is a physical act.

His argument fell flat way before that. That was just a clear example to how he's wrong though.



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AsGryffynn on 27 April 2016

Nothing makes sense today. People will simply say women are more trustworthy or something along those lines...



AlfredoTurkey on 27 April 2016
Puppyroach said:
And the example you give at the end of your argument is flawed, since a transgendered person does not affect another persons life physically in any way, while attacking a cop very much so is a physical act.

A man proclaiming he's a woman and then pissing in the same room as my 10 year old daughter greatly affects her life in a real, physical way. His inability to accept that he was born a man should be a burden that falls on the shoulders of himself and a psychologist, not her and not society (of which the majority of are opposed).



Puppyroach on 28 April 2016
AlfredoTurkey said:
Puppyroach said:
And the example you give at the end of your argument is flawed, since a transgendered person does not affect another persons life physically in any way, while attacking a cop very much so is a physical act.

A man proclaiming he's a woman and then pissing in the same room as my 10 year old daughter greatly affects her life in a real, physical way. His inability to accept that he was born a man should be a burden that falls on the shoulders of himself and a psychologist, not her and not society (of which the majority of are opposed).

In what way does it affect her? She has most likely already shared restroom with a transgendered individual, as have you. It´s not like a transgendered person walks in to the restroom and shouts "I am transgender and will now take a piss, look at me!". And you have not explained how a transgendered person sitting in a separate booth, affects your daughter physically? Is it a matter of, if the booth is placed 10 meters aways in a place where the sign says "Men´s room" that makes the difference?

And I am still curious as to what view you have of hermafrodites and other animals where males behave like female and vice versa.