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Your thoughts on white guilt.

Yes, we're far too guilt... 45 46.39%
 
This is rediclous! There is no white guilt... 23 23.71%
 
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Scisca said:
Jumpin said:
If you're a white person living outside of Europe, you're the biggest type of hypocrite if you're anti-immigration since technically, you are a foreigner, you are not native to the land you are native to Europe. But even in Europe, I don't see how multiculturalism is a failed experiment, it is what made Europe the greatest place in the world. Currently the multicultural parts of Europe are the safest, most free, and happiest places in the world.

The monoculture like places are almost universally less free and less happy, and in most places less safe. Mono cultural places also tend to have lower intelligence due to bumpkinization; which often leads to inbreeding, lower health standards, and poor child rearing. There are a few exceptions, such as Japan, but if you take note of the exceptions you can note hat none of them are white countries. Monoculture do white regions show extreme signs of bumpkinization.

You must be kidding me.

I live in a homogenously white and Catholic European country and guess what - it is being considered one of the safest countries in Europe - and it's a very tight list nowadays. There isn't a single multicultural country in Europe that's equally safe. Other safest countries in Europe are... neighbouring homogenously white and Christian countries. Granted, not all of them (Russia...), but there is no denying that this is a fact. More free? Over here we are shocked by how low the level of freedom is in the West of Europe. Freedom of speech is non-existent in the West from our point of view. After the news finally broke out about the rapes in Koeln, our reporters were shocked that German government has such a control over the media, that it can put a tight lid on such shocking news for over a week. They all agreed that this would be absolutely impossible in Poland. No matter what the government did, it wouldn't be able to do that, no way in hell and trust me - it wouldn't. Moreover, a lot of stuff that's a regular part of our political debate and causes no controversy over here is punishable by jail (seriously!) in some Western countries (Nazi Sweden comes to mind here...). So yeah, more free my ass. That's a sad, sad joke and you have no idea what you're talking about. I worked with a French guy (about 28 years old), he was so shocked when he came here by how freely we behave, how safe we are and feel. A tipsy girl walking back home from a party in the middle of the night? That was inconceivable for him. Why? Cause "in Paris Arabs would rape her even in the centre of the city and French people would be scared to help her, cause if they reacted, more Arabs would come out of nowhere and beat them up" - that's what he told us numerous times and it was BEFORE last year's attacks in Paris. He was also shocked when we went to a lake and the whole group went swimming leaving our stuff on the beach. Normal for us, but for some reason shocking to a Frenchman. My colleague married yet another Frenchman and guess what - they decided to live in Poland instead of France. "Cause they feel better here". Go figure.

Moreover, have you heard about the massive emigration of Jews from Western Europe? They are fleeing this sinking ship, cause they no longer feel safe. Do some research, read about it for yourself, the facts are undeniable. Jews are fleeing Western Europe on a mass scale, cause the situation there starts to resemble Germany in the 30s and they are scared of living in the countries they were born in! Can you imagine that? They flee mainly to Israel, UK and Canada, places where they can feel safe. I've recently heard that in London half of kids in Jewish schools were born in France and came to UK only recently. Shocking? To me Jews are the ultimate testament to the condition of a country. Pretty much every single time in history a country started to go downhill, they were the first to feel the wrath. Multiculti countries are on a highway to hell right now and Jews see it. I have no doubt Israeli Intelligence Agency is involved in this as well and they know their stuff. Who knows if Merkel isn't setting Western Europe up for yet another genocide? Who knows what the ultimate solution to the problem of muslims is going to be in a couple of decades... One thing is certain, European multiculti is a huge mistake and will cost the West greatly. I am thankful that my country hasn't followed suit here.

Some food for thought as a response to the ridiculous theory you presented in the second paragraph. European countries were homogenously white and Christian when they conquered the whole world and created the civilization we live in. #dealwithit

Critical thinking - try it.

 

@White guilt - I'm not an expert in this matter, I don't feel it at all. That may be because my country has never been involved in colonization and slavery, so over here when kids are learing about it, we learn that it's something that some other countries did and naturally we feel no connection, responsibility, guilt, etc. Still, I think that the West suffers from some kind of trauma like this and that it's stupid and causes great harm. This was particularly evident with Merkel when she wanted to paint Germans as this modern, humanitarian and tolerant nation that's helping others - in the hope that people stop thinking of them only as Nazis. She overplayed her hand so badly, though.

And then we have the nuts in Palestine/Israel who want the other side to disappear.

 

It's disappointing Scisca. I kid you not when most of the people I've ever seen in Palestine/Israel simply want to live together and move on. It's disappointing. It's what prevents me from living there(let alone visiting more). 

When you have buffoons such as Palestine's leader Mahmoud Abbas just trying to accomplish their agenda(i.e get more money- this maniac has a net worth of 10 million. Have you heard politicians of ever gaining 10 million, let alone in a third world country? Just to let you know, Obama is only worth 4 mil), nothing will go further. And when you have those leaders in Israel that promote killing Palestinians for absolutely no reason, then you'll also go nowhere.

 

My advice? Kill off the nuts. Of course, I'll get criticized by liberals for such a violence attempt.

Well for fuck's sake, what should we do? Go for the "peaceful" attempt that has never worked? or should we grow up, get rid of the buffoons from both sides, and let Palestine/Israel merge to finally become a decent place?



 

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Well, imho, thinking in races is your very first problem. We're all humans, you know.

Also, I don't think you're coming to europe that often. I live here, I work here and I get around quite a bit because of my work. Just this month I have been to Paris, London, Hamburg and some smaller places in between. Not a single time was there any danger. It's just fine here. Sure, I met some refugees here and there, but they were nice people and I didn't have a problem with them. You most likely won't believe it, but they even didn't attempt to rape multiple women!

While I was in Danneberg, Germany, I learned that there was a refugee camp. So I had some time on my hands and said, screw it, let's go there! Let's see just how seriously bad these people are!



To my surprise, no one was stopping me from just walking right in there. And I was pleasantly surprised. There were a lot of people who didn't understand a single word I was saying, no matter if in german, french or english. But the people who did understand me were all very nice. They told me stories about their travels and that they were really happy to be here, even if the camp lacks some things here and there. I had a really good time and I am not afraid of these people in any way. I don't care where exactly they come from or what colour their skin has. Most of the people are fine, there are just some assholes among them, just like in the rest of europes population.

You know what I'm really afraid of? All that Nazi bullshit that is rising lately. Everywhere people threaten to kill other humans, people who set buildings on fire and people who spread lies to generate fear and hate. Those are the people I am afraid of. They look a little something like this.



Everytime I see someone like that on the streets, I get the fuck out of there, because I'm scared shitless. It's always white people. I have never been afraid of a muslim in this continent.



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As an Irish person, whose ancestors were butchered for hundreds of years by other white people, while we butchered them back, I feel that you clearly are a bigot!  I lives in a successful multi cultural society. None of what you say is more than an opinion. You have no facts to back up anything. White guilt is the same as any other guilt. You just happen to live in a country dominated by white Protestants. Some of them have a conscience. Having lived in the U.S and having left, even my American wife agrees that the U.S has major racism problems. It's pathetic and backward. And stop CLAIMING some kind of right over WHITE. White people here hate people like you!! We are white. We are an older civilisation. We accept others and have no white guilt or privilege. 

 

White privilege? It's just a class privilege. Because most of the white people are the ancestors of rich immigrants and the black people from slaves. But yeah, I think all you have going for you is your colour so you rant and rave and play that card because it is in a dominant scenario. I don't pity people, but if I did, you'd be the first.

 

and yes, there are Indo Chinese couples or black/Japanese couples. If you actually travelled outside of your trailer park you'd know that. Most ignorant people From backward countries or states tend to be slower to mix. Just like you. The trashiest, poorest and most in bred of the "whites". But just like how not all Muslims are terrorists or not all Indian people only marry an Indian person (shows your intelligence that you stereotype everything), not all white people are like you......thank god!



SJWs have a lot of white guilt, which explains their behaviour.



We have become so incredibly tolerant in western europe because of ww2 and the paranoia related to this.
Basicly we just went full circle, we are now so tolerant we are actually tolerating an intolerant idealogy.
Alot of muslims(mostly younger ones) believe in some sort of zionist conspiricy.
2016, 70 years after ww2 we are now tolerating an idealogy that is blaming jews on everything, and using them as a scapegoat. Their nutjob holy book is even calling for the extermination of jews. Just open it up sometime, theyre obsessed with jews. Mohammed killed almost a thousand jews, and hes supposed to be the perfect example for mankind.

And this has nothing to do with isreal/palestine. Muslims having been killing jews for 1400 years now.



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barneystinson69 said:
Ka-pi96 said:

How does that prove that Europe is more dangerous or that police don't go to some areas any more? It doesn't. Europe is still fine, police do their job just fine. There are some issues every now and then, but those are exceptions and are not the norm. Besides exceptions like those happen in every country and has been happening even without refugees.

And if refugees in Europe aren't part of the topic then maybe you shouldn't have mentioned that in the OP..

Some issue's? Europe didn't experience terrorist attacks on these scale 20-30 years ago. Seeing over 1000 sexual assaults in one country in a few hours isn't a sign things are normal. But you know what, no matter what I say, you will not change your mind. And I get it, some people have different opinion's. But seeing mass immigration with many not integrating isn't fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwl5kyjLGT8

Just watch the video, ok. If you don't like it, quit and we don't have to discuss it anymore. Hear me out, this isn't a sign of normal. I was pro-immigration till now, when I realized they were used for cheap labour. And when you start to see more immigrants than people born in European countries, that's trouble. But I'm a facist loony I guess...

Actually, there's significantly less attacks in Europe than there was 20-30 years ago. Have you forgotten Kosovo, the IRA, the Rusian unrest, the Bosnian crisis, the Macedonian insurgency, the Croatian conflict? Also here in Germany, violent crime rates are down significantly over the last 25 years.

Also, you're a foreigner judging my country, you're not even from Europe. That is why your posts are so  insanely ignorant and asinine. What is wrong with you?



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

Soundwave said:
wartaal said:
Being islamophobe means fearing islamic rule, which is fairly logical since islams deathcount is 270 million and still going strong. What this has to do with hitting women with a headscarf i dont know, but i like how you just crammed it in there.
Correlation doesnt imply causation and you know this. I like how you are also implying that islamophobes hit women wearing headscarfs, hillarious.
You are starting to sound like a true social justice warrior.

No, lol Islamophobia is a fairly simple term ... it means discriminating against someone because they are Muslim or look Muslim. 

Fearing Islamic rule is quite frankly paranoia ... Europe is 90%+ non-Muslim, good luck on that Islamic revolution. It's like having one black person on your soccer team and being scared to death you might turn into a rapper. 

On the Social justice warrior thing, lol ... maybe too many boys (not going to use the term men) are pussies these days? To be honest all this whining and crying on the internet, that isn't how a man behaves, a man is a man because he's secure in who he is and no woman is going to change that. I'm finding a bunch of whiners the first time they face any adversity in life. I like video games just fine, but it's kinda sad too that you have a generation of boys lined up for comic book movies who probably can't even do 10 push ups and then wonder why they don't have a girlfriend complaining on the internet about how they're "oppressed" by a 90 pound woman. Gimme a break. 

They're not being oppressed by a 90lb woman, it's the Marxist state, media, education system and the entire ruling class in society that is opporessing any discourse in support of the traditional famiily, white male, Christianity, etc..  These grumblings on the internet are just the start of something that will eventually lead to revolts against the current socialist estabishments in the west.

The term Islamaphobe is a derogative term that seeks to lump anybody who has reservations about radical Islam into the same group as Neo-Nazi's.     The Socialist Marxists have no desire to understand why so many people (and not just white men, mind you) are having growing concerns about Islamic immigration into their countries... let's just shut them up and censor any discontent.  This is classic socialism: government control is the only thing that is needed in life and if they're hearing speech that they don't like let's just label it as bigotry, censor it and make it go away.   This is how civilizations fall, we have the opportunity right now to embrace the concerns of the right wing while still maintaining a liberal democracy that is safe for peaceful Muslims.  When you tell these concerned people to go off into their corner and shut up you are forcing them out of mainstream society and this will be to the detriment of the establishment. 

The problem with Socialism/Marxism is that it doesn't know when to let go of control, those in control tend to bring the whole ship down before they cede any ground to their opponents.  Yes, there is a Muslim-extremism problem and a clash of cultures in in most of the west.  If the left cannot even admit this and allow for free debate, then we are no longer a society that is capable of solving the day-to-day problems that average people face



Bill Maher just did a very good piece on this very subject.



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

It's a creation from the Main stream media.



COKTOE said:
Bill Maher just did a very good piece on this very subject.


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