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nobody gives a shit about the xbox brand outside the usa and uk sorry op



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Vasto said:
                                       

 BioWare's co-founder even went so far as to say its a "gigantic pain in the ass".

 

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/51730/microsoft-unique-position-disrupt-sonys-console-reign/index.html

Oh BioWare isn't happy, that's for sure. They haven't even announced a title for their new mainline IP yet, and it's been in development for a wee bit over 4 years. I believe before even Andromeda started development. So yeah.... they aren't very thrilled. I'm not even sure if it's worth the effort for them to upscale it.

I think at this rate, the Neo PS4 will only be successful if the NX actually offers 4k support. Of course allowing games to be at both 900p and 1080p for easy ports. For Sony's sake. I hope they don't force 4k mode on developers. A lot of them can't afford the resources to do so.




How would developing games for two extraordinarily similar machines be mor difficult than Xbox and the millions of PC combos? Or should we ask Remedy, who had so much success with their PC port...



CosmicSex said:
How would developing games for two extraordinarily similar machines be mor difficult than Xbox and the millions of PC combos? Or should we ask Remedy, who had so much success with their PC port...

Isn't easier to port games for Xbox, and PC,  than PS4, and PS4 Neo the difference between those 2 versions PS4K, and PS4, is the power, Developers cannot push the edge of the Machines, because they would have much work if they did.

I Don't like the idea of PS4K, until Sony, say something i will still think that this is just a Rumor, If the PS4 Neo, turn out to be true, so i will send it to the 

 

It is hard to purchase Hardware in my homeland, because they are overpriced, PS4, on Launch was avaliable for more than 1800US$, Last year was avaliable for 1300US$, now the Console only is for 600-800US$, because the US$ is up more than 80-90% YOY.



Bristow9091 said:
Jranation said:

 

People in VGChartz seems to love that. 

 

They think every rumor is true and write a fucking essay. 

Ain't that the sad truth...

Amen.  On top of knowing the exact specs, we also know the exact price.

 

I hear MS is releasing an Xbox One 4k that has over 5 tflops of GPU performance and costs $325, with a free trade up for any original x1 owners. 



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I would think that it has a lot to do with scale ability of modern game engines , where your game scales to the PS4 or neo.



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binary solo said:

I'm talking new games. The DF info listed 1080p minimum resolution for the Neo for all new games. In the grand scheme of things remasters are an irrelevance now. They helped early gen with getting over the lack of actual new gen games, but now we're into the swing of things remasters don't matter. So the only games of consequence to be talking about are new games that will be released after Sony's line in the sand date for incorporating Neo into game development.

Yet DF has never stated that every game requires a NEO mode from October on, only that games released from October onwards either need to have it day 1 or not at all.

Sony is very keen on developers supporting both systems simultaneously, and is motivating developers to ensure that there is Neo support in all PS4 titles from Q4 onwards this year.

Again not required. If an indie developer or other lower budget games only want to supply PS4 code, will they be rejected?
Also the only requirement for a NEO version so far is 1080p minimum, the rest are all restrictions.

Anyway bit off topic here. Dunno if MS is in any position to disrupt Sony's console reign. They can launch a 249,- slim and focus on good exclusives. But I think Nintendo with NX is in a better position to touch Sony's current market share. UWP is not going to do anything to Sony. IMO both Sony and MS are busy shooting themselves in the foot.



"disrupt Sony's console reign"

Too little, too late for that.



GribbleGrunger said:
WoodenPints said:
Devs will just release the one version for PS4 and say well it runs on PS4.5 so that is fine. Only a few real big games and Son'y 1st party will bother full upgrading games to the PS4.5 specs.

Devs aren't allowed to do that.

Where did you hear that?

From what I understood (my God these are rumours why are even discussing them...) you can release one version of the game if you want but you're not allowed to then make a Neo version afterwards. That only applies to games which have been released before the Neo has.

Which means it isn' t a gigantic pain in the arse at all. Devs can continue to make games they way they always have if they want to.

Apparently. Maybe. Possibly.



Plerpy_ said:
GribbleGrunger said:

Devs aren't allowed to do that.

Where did you hear that?

From what I understood (my God these are rumours why are even discussing them...) you can release one version of the game if you want but you're not allowed to then make a Neo version afterwards. That only applies to games which have been released before the Neo has.

Which means it isn' t a gigantic pain in the arse at all. Devs can continue to make games they way they always have if they want to.

Apparently. Maybe. Possibly.

Games MUST be at least 1080p/30fps so devs can't release a game on the NEO at 900p which means they can't do what the poster implies. So, for instance,  The Witcher 3 would have to be 1080p/60fps (not 1080p/30fps) and Starwars Battlefront would have to be 1080p/60fps (not 900p/60fps).



 

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